Posted 08 April 2010 - 02:25 PM
Like the topic states I wanna run a 2JZ-R154-R230 setup but I know next to nothing about RWD set-ups (this is MY first RWD car that I have owned) and I am trying to figure out how to get the R230 setup all together I get that I will need a Custom Axle, and have the Beta R230 mounting kit added to the list of things i need, but I am getting confused on what exactly I need as far as shafts go and all the applicable adapters....
Some of the info I find is either from years ago and there are companies selling the parts now / or Im very confused on what exactly i need since different ppl take different approaches to doing it.
So any help you guys can provide would help alot thanks.
Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:41 PM
im planning to run the 2jz na-t, r154 but with r200 long nose+z31 turbo cv shafts.
i originally intended to run the r200 q45 lsd diff (similar housing as r230) with the 6bolt flange outsides and moser axles with 6bolt mm axle flange adapters. i went the long nose route for these reasons. having to make the mounts or buy the kit for 500 and axles for 600 and flanges for another $$$ was way up in the 1G's easy. one thing about this setup is it's a bit over kill if you do not intend on running over 600hp. keep in mind basic 400hp s30 chassis is retarded fast and will do easy 11's. after all these parts invested, if you search these forums, the weak link now becomes the stub axle shafts. that being said, your going to probably end up coughing another 500 something for the 27 spline billet stubs. now your rear end is bullet proof. with how many hp after how much cash?? i know its good for extra insurance for your rear end but the regular r200 long nose has been proven and has sooo many more gear ratio's to choose from and easy mount in with parts availability from local wrecking yards.
i plan to run 500hp(max no more than 600hp freeway) daily but not in every corner on constant launch. im using the r200 longnose with the 3.54 gears and z31 300zxt turbo half shafts plus the mm axle flange adapters, all for around 500.00. you can seriously always add a lsd for 500-700 and still save compare to the r230 setup. i thought for almost 1/2 year and searching before i decided to go with my basic setup. its enough to handle 500hp. if your mainly looking at this setup because its lsd and is the strongest diff you can get for the s30, its not really necessary and there are other options. but if you have the cash, who wouldnt want a bullet proof rear end? i would. lol.
anyways, back to your question. parts you will need....
1.) 4 cv shafts from q45 (91-94? 6 bolt one) at junk yard. because you need the inner 6 bolts to go on the moser axles both ends.
2.) 6 bolt axle flange adapters from modernmotorsports, throw in some moser alxes while your at it. 1000.00 cough cough.
3.) r230 rear diff mount kit from modernmotorsport. 450.00? dont recall beta making one.
4.) this... http://forums.hybrid...ictoral-review/
5.) then this... http://www.modern-mo...Proven Brian G/
Posted 09 April 2010 - 03:09 PM
What kinda LSD do they offer for the R200?
Hmm so given your info and research what would be a solid R200 setup? (Sorry for the change of subject but I have been researching the R230 and dont know much about the R200 at all) I would like a Quaife LSD if possible.
Hey also the Q45 shafts (if i even need them for a R200 setup) can they be bought anywhere new? Sorry to be a burden with all this seems like there are alot of options out there for the S30 lol. I am just trying to get a solid list together of what I need. lol Gonna be a monster build.
Definately gonna save all those links you gave me, I have never dealt with RWD drivetrain componants so alot of this is a learning experiance for me.
Posted 09 April 2010 - 09:34 PM
all you need from the q45 axles are really just the inner 6 bolt flanges(4 total) and internals, bearings etc. the shaft itself is not being used as you will be using custom moser axles availible through modernmotorsport with the correct length. the 6bolt will be assy. on both ends of the shaft like the link i posted. you only want junk ones, trust me on this, not new or reman's as you will be tearing it apart anyways. go to junk and take 4 axles out, take apart inner 6 bolts from two and remove outter joint on other two axles, throw all into bag with two cv shafts with 6 bolt flanges on each end and pay for the price of two leaving with as total of 4 6bolt flanges. if anyone ask why you buying busted axles, explain your rear end swap in every little detail and one would roll eyes and try to get you outta there asap. pm me if you need any info as i been collecting info and reading religiously for the past year as im doing the same swap. if you really want a vicious lsd r200 q45 diff, let me know. i have one sitting in my garage with 130k from a 94 q45. i went with a more basic swap so this one is just sitting.
Posted 09 April 2010 - 10:46 PM
It'll allow you to use the diff, axles, hubs, calipers and e-brake from the donor Nissan car (240SXs, Skylines, Q45, Z32 NA, or Z32TT).
Since you're thinking of going the R230 route, the Z32TT hubs are stronger (31 spline) than the 280Z stub axles (only 27 spline). You can source them at the junkyard for pretty cheap, and the Q45 shares the same hub as the Z32TT, making it even easier to get replacements. No need to get stronger stub axles or CV adapters like in the other kits.
The rear CV axles are also the same between the Q45 and Z32TT where only the length of the center axles may differ slightly...this doesn't matter as TTT has replacement centers in the correct length for the Zs. You send them your pair of axles and they take them apart and install the new centers.
Where are you located? I have an R230 and some other parts if you're interested.
Edited by mrcheeze36, 09 April 2010 - 10:58 PM.
72' Datsun 510 - RHD
Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:09 AM
I do plan to go pretty all out on the build as far as supporting mods go (fuel suspension etc etc) but want something that is reliable and safe to drive on the streets....so between 500-600 is fine by me.
Im located in Savannah, GA but am currently in Afghanistan finishing up a tour here so looking to start dropping llarge amounts of money for the build around Feb. next year. Just trying to do all my research now.
I will have to find some decent junkyards as well as most around Savannah have been raided for all they are worth lol. and am interested in the parts you guys have (once I pick one or the other lol) if you are gonna have them when im ready to buy all this stuff.
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