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#1 SUNNY Z

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 04:38 PM

As some of you might already know, I bought this little guy in February of this year off here for little more than a song. It's as "rust free" as they get haha. I paid $1500 for it, and drove 7 hours each way. It had the 355 SBC / TH350 mounted, but nothing was hooked up. A couple weekends later, it was terrorizing the streets, getting flipped off by 50+ year old ladies (open headers :rolleyes:) I've wanted it to be an LSx, as that's the generation that I come from, and now it's going to be a reality!

Here is a quick pic of my 2002 Z/28

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When I picked her up(not me--v) ;-)

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Well today, I pulled/sold/delivered the 355 SBC that was in it for $900.

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There is SO much room in this engine bay!!! :rockon: (especially compared to an f-bod)

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I have so many wheels / tires in my shop, its comical

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I also deleted the rear bumper, and crash things. It was a whole lot easier when I realized it had to be done from the top :angry:

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Thats really all I have for now, But I'll keep it updated as I make more progress! :cheers:

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:38 PM

That baby should haul ass! I'm doing the same swap on the same year car only I had to pay 2k for mine. Just ordered the cam for it today. I bet your done before me.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 07:43 AM

Thanks man!

Update: Just sold the JTR kit / some other stuff! I'm ready to start ordering mounts and a fuel system!

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:13 PM

well i have a little progress to report.

I tore into the wiring, labeling everything, and taking it out of the engine bay. I'll be using a stand alone wiring harness, so 90% of this will be replaced / deleted.

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Here's the engine bay, pre-cleaning, without all the wiring.

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Here's where all the wiring now resides. haha, Just for the time being.

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I did find a couple more small rust spots, in the culprit areas.

Below battery box
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and on the drivers side, same spot
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here's the rust on the passenger's floor pan. Not terrible, but I'm gonna replace it.

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and the other Z. It's been driving me crazy lately, battling a nasty driveline vibration.

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That's all I got done last night!

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 09:12 AM

Just got off the phone with Nasty Performance. Great guys to deal with. We discussed my fuel system requirements and capabilities.

Here's what my fuel system is going to entail:
-Stock 280z tank (has internal baffles)
-Corvette FPR / Filter, located near the tank.
-Walbro 255 inline pump
-I'm going to get some sort of pre filter (brand undecided)
- -6 AN line throughout ( likely a combination of hard stainless, and braided stainless / teflon lined)

This should be PLENTY for anything I intend to do with the car for a long time, and is quite affordable.
-walbro pump ~$100
-corvetter fpr w/ fittings ~80
-Stainless hard line - 2.95 /ft
-stainless braided - ~$5/ ft
-pre filter ~$25
-misc fittings - ~ +- $100

Hopefully have it done for < $350, and it should support well north of 600HP.

UPDATE

I took the stand alone harness out of the box that I received it in, only to find that it was wrapped head to toe in black electrical tape. This is a serious NO-NO. It was built at least a couple years ago, and the tape decided to deteriorate, and get gummy. So I stripped it all off ( HUGE PITA )

Here's the aftermath

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Now I'm left with a gummy harness, so I've been using adhesive remover to get all that **** off.

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It was a good thing I did this, as I found some shoddy connections held together by the ol "twist, tape, and hope" method:bang:

I went to work on the engine bay, sanding it with 220, and taking all the unnecessary crap off the fender wells and firewall. I intend to weld up all the holes, and make it a nice smooth final product

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Then I went through the car harness, and trimmed out everything I won't be using. Leaving basically the horn, and headlights / side markers. All these will be run together, through the frame rail to the front, so they'll be completely hidden, and out of harm's way.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 10:32 AM

Just got off the phone with Nasty Performance. Great guys to deal with. We discussed my fuel system requirements and capabilities.

Here's what my fuel system is going to entail:
-Stock 280z tank (has internal baffles)
-Corvette FPR / Filter, located near the tank.
-Walbro 255 inline pump
-I'm going to get some sort of pre filter (brand undecided)
- -6 AN line throughout ( likely a combination of hard stainless, and braided stainless / teflon lined)

This should be PLENTY for anything I intend to do with the car for a long time, and is quite affordable.
-walbro pump ~$100
-corvetter fpr w/ fittings ~80
-Stainless hard line - 2.95 /ft
-stainless braided - ~$5/ ft
-pre filter ~$25
-misc fittings - ~ +- $100

Hopefully have it done for < $350, and it should support well north of 600HP.

UPDATE

I took the stand alone harness out of the box that I received it in, only to find that it was wrapped head to toe in black electrical tape. This is a serious NO-NO. It was built at least a couple years ago, and the tape decided to deteriorate, and get gummy. So I stripped it all off ( HUGE PITA )

Here's the aftermath

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Now I'm left with a gummy harness, so I've been using adhesive remover to get all that **** off.

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It was a good thing I did this, as I found some shoddy connections held together by the ol "twist, tape, and hope" method:bang:

I went to work on the engine bay, sanding it with 220, and taking all the unnecessary crap off the fender wells and firewall. I intend to weld up all the holes, and make it a nice smooth final product

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Then I went through the car harness, and trimmed out everything I won't be using. Leaving basically the horn, and headlights / side markers. All these will be run together, through the frame rail to the front, so they'll be completely hidden, and out of harm's way.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 10:38 AM

Well that didn't work out very well. Sorry about the coppied post. Anyways, I was going to say if you havn't ordered the corvette fuel filter/regulator yet the have a kit on eBay with the correct quick disconnect an -6 fittings and the filter. I just got mine in the mail the other day and it's quite the time saver.

#8 SUNNY Z

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 11:47 AM

I haven't ordered it yet. however, I have yet to find a price to beat this

http://www.speedwaym...Kits,41791.html

A member on here had it in one of his threads.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 02:38 PM

That's an awsome price. Looks like you got it all mapped out well. Good luck on the swap!

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 06:12 AM

great progress josey, keep us posted. you going to remove to brake m/c and booster and brake lines to really make the engine bay complete for the respray?

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 03:54 PM

great progress josey, keep us posted. you going to remove to brake m/c and booster and brake lines to really make the engine bay complete for the respray?


Yep, it's like a fire sale. Everything must go. I'm gonna take everything out, or at least loosen it, and tape it up, so that I can get a good finish on the paint in the engine bay. I just acquired my buddy's welder today, so I hope to get a start on it tomorrow. (school / KSU football getting in the way) haha. I'll make sure to keep ya'll updated.

GO CATS

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 04:57 PM

Great progress josey, wish I was as diligent at photo-documenting my project. I started with best-of-intentions and what not but only have half a dozen photos. Did get the engine ready with swap parts though thanks to your delivery last week! Can't wait to see more.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 06:20 PM

Great progress josey, wish I was as diligent at photo-documenting my project. I started with best-of-intentions and what not but only have half a dozen photos. Did get the engine ready with swap parts though thanks to your delivery last week! Can't wait to see more.


Good to hear! I just hope by taking tons of pictures I can save someone some money / time by doing / not doing what I did. haha

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 05:04 PM

Not much to update, but here goes.

This weekend, I hardly got anything done, due to the Kansas State Wildcats whoopin that longhorn ass, and of course, I had to celebrate in rockstar fashion

However, I did get some done on the z. Welded up a couple holes, (HUGE PITA btw). This sheet metal is the bane of my existence. It's incredibly thin. After some slow tacking, i was able to get a couple holes filled, and ground down. Then I masked off the engine bay, and have been getting it ready for paint.

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I've decided I'm going to use all SS braided , teflon lined, line. This will eliminate the headache of the hard line bending / flaring issues. I'm going to be placing the corvette FPR near the back of the car, to eliminate the need for unnecessary plumbing and clutter in the engine bay.

I plan on ordering the mounts probably tomorrow, or shortly thereafter. Thats and thats all. For today

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 07:30 PM

Well, the UPS man delivered this little bundle of joy yesterday.... (fuel system stuff)

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and within moments of opening the box, of course i had to play with my new toys

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Here is how the engine bay currently looks. Ready to do some final filling / smoothing and then paint!

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Here's the current pile of crap i've removed. Well at least 75% of it.

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I started taping my harness up, and beautifying it. Of course using vinyl, non adhesive tape.

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Also picked this up last weekend, from a friend's parts car. Its out of a V6, so the pump will have to be changed. Not sure on what i'm gonna put in it yet.

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I then started the hacking of my spare tire well, to fit the F-body gas tank. Here it is, Pre-Op

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Annnnnd more harness work

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Post-op. I cut the braces with a cutoff wheel, and the rest with a sawzall. Note the half a cutoff wheel blade in the opening in the picture. That is why you ALWAYS wear safety glasses when using this kind of thing. It split while I was using it and hit me in the eye. I did have my safety glasses on, (thankfully) and it just put a deep gouge in the lens. WEAR your PPE!

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A view from the bottom showing the supports that must be cut.

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And the tub. I got a little off my trajectory in one spot, but I'll have a cover over it, so it'll still be pretty.

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I hope to mount the tank, and get the fuel system plumbed this weekend!

I plan on making a specific thread (hybridz) on how to do this swap, when I get it all done.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 08:58 AM

Well I made a little more progress this weekend. I worked on getting the f body tank mounted. It was a real PITA to do this by myself. Here's some of the ghetto fabb'n that took place.

Just a hood-rich way of holding it up so i could measure it.
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I went ahead and used some 1.5" square tubing, rather than the 2" that a lot of people have. I did this only because it's what I had laying around, and is PLENTY thick enough to get the job done.

Here is the first support

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And then the tank, with both supports welded to the frame rails, front and back.

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I then started mocking up the FPR/ filter. It's gonna be all in stainless, the blue line is just for a template.

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The FPR will be mounted to the rail, as shown

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I then started bending up tank straps, out of some 1.5" strap that i had.

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Here is a picture of the car, as it sits. With my buddy doin a cam swap on his 07 KFX 450 in the background.

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Then a friend brought over a pony keg of a microbrew, and needless to say, that was where productivity ceased for the evening. haha.:chug::chug:

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 12:22 PM

Small update for now. I found an engine from a local guy on a message board. He currently has it installed in a '71 El Camino, which he was doing a turbo build on. He changed directions, before even firing the engine, so I'm getting a STEAL.

The motor is a 2000 5.3 with 100k.
-232/240 .595/.608 115 cam (From Exotic Performance Plus (EPP) For boost :P )
-Comp 918 beehive springs rated to .625 LIft
-ARP rod bolts (~$100)
-Autokraft oil pan ($400)
-All front accessories
-Edelbrock Pro Flo Intake ($400+)
-Edelbrock Fuel rails (~$150)
-RC racing sl4-750 injectors (75lb) ($500+)

All new aftermarket stuff, never fired. I'll be picking it up for $1200 :blink:

Also, the JCI engine mounts showed up today! I'll be building my own trans mount. (I think the $100 the get for theirs is just plain stuuupid) Deer season will be consuming the later half of my week Thursday-sunday, so I don't plan on getting much done, just thought I'd update.

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 12:51 PM

Subscribed, Nice Z's btw.

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 07:11 PM

Quick shot of the brackets I build for the rear of the fuel tank mount straps. 2.5" angle iron, 1.5" wide. drilled a 3/8" hole, tapped it to M10x15, threaded the rod into it, welded the back side. I then welded these to the 1.5" square stock above the tank. Came out really nice. More pics to follow later

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And then I FINALLY finished the body work in the engine bay. Ended up smoothing most of the welded areas over with bondo, to get just the finish i wanted. Here it is after 1 coat of primer.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 09:09 PM

Update for the coldest day of the year so far. BRRRRRRRRRRR -3*

Just found a local 2000, 67k mile, T56 and centerforce clutch, everything is there

-$1000

YEAH Baby!

This project is actually starting to take shape!

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