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#1 User is offline   Gabriel Tyler 

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 10:28 AM

Techno Toy Tuning now has 240Z, 260Z and 280Z Rear Lower Control Arms!

We use all heavy wall steel tubing, with gussets in all the right places! We designed this setup to be as simple and rigid as possible. They come with our standard gunmetal metalic grey powdercoating, but we can do other colors if you so desire!

They come with Prothane bushings on the inboard side, and on the outboard side 3 piece teflon lined 5/8" rod ends with 3/4" shanks. They are adjustable on car. Spin the center nut one way, they get longer, the other way they get shorter.

They allows you to adjust toe and camber, as well as widen the track on the rear end about 1" if you so desire.

They also come with a shim kit for adjusting the wheel forward or backward about 1/2" in the fenderwell!

Price is $425 a pair

Drop us an E-mail at ggtyler@yahoo.com or a call at 530-626-7334

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 10:35 AM

Very nice - great price too.
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 10:42 AM

Gabe, it's a SERIOUSLY BAD idea to shim the wheel forwards or backwards. The strut is held perpendicular to the control arm with no way to change angle at the bottom. If you move the strut all the way back, which is presumably what people would do, then the strut, when perpendicular to the control arm will come up as much as 1/2" behind the bearing in the camber plate. You might be able to force the top of the strut through the camber plate, but as the suspension compresses the angularity on the strut increases and this means that you're putting a hell of a lot of side load on the strut itself and your control arm as well.

I went through this whole deal when I made my first set of rear control arms:
http://forums.hybrid...t=106457&page=9 (post 168 and 175)

There are some better designs that don't have the misalignment issues here. These designs allow the strut to rotate.:
http://forums.hybrid...t=129154&page=6
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 11:08 AM

Pretty, I might have to pick some of those up a little down the line once I'm into the suspension pieces on my Z.
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#5 User is offline   Gabriel Tyler 

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 01:19 PM

jmortensen:Thank you very much for your advice. The shims are only for corrections in a slightly twisted or damaged chassis (which we've seen a handful of).

With the spindle in the OEM postion, we've worked these lower control arms up and down through the whole range of movement and there is no binding.
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 03:07 PM

Darn...my Winter projects just ended. I will be looking at this thread next Fall to plan my next Winter projects. Nice product and nice price.
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 03:29 PM

would it be possible to get solid bushing instead of the poly ones?
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 04:13 PM

hoov100: We could make some bushings out of Delrin for you, but I really think you need at least a little bit of compliance back there. I think you'll find the responsiveness just fine with the urethane bushings back there.
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 04:58 PM

How much would it cost for the Delrin bushings?
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 05:02 PM

jimbob_racing said:

I wish I would have seen this before I jumped in the group buy that seems to have stalled. :(


x2

However I did purchace the adjustable tie rods from Techno this morning. (hopefully there will be no issues with the Johns car ls1 mount).
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 09:27 AM

Gabriel Tyler said:

Techno Toy Tuning now has 240Z, 260Z and 280Z Rear Lower Control Arms!
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Gabe, I had emailed you a few months ago about making some RLCAs and I'm glad you decided to do so. I'll be placing an order soon.

I've bought several items from TTT and he also sectioned my struts for a very reasonable price. Everything I received was first class and his turn time was very quick. Excellent guy to work with.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 09:32 AM

Would it be possible to get them in bare metal? I will be powder coating all my suspension parts to match and I'd like to do these to be the same color as everything else.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 09:34 AM

aziza z said:

x2

However I did purchace the adjustable tie rods from Techno this morning. (hopefully there will be no issues with the Johns car ls1 mount).


Matt,
I had considered TTT TC rods, but I didn't think it would work with John's mounts (I never tried it, just going by the pics). Let us know how it works out. I would like to get these as well.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 10:04 AM

I dont think it will either. But Im hoping it will. If not im oping to replace it with a longer bolt (grade 8). I will post my findings. Im kind of surprised that no one with an ls motor is running the TTT adjustable tension rods.


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Matt,
I had considered TTT TC rods, but I didn't think it would work with John's mounts (I never tried it, just going by the pics). Let us know how it works out. I would like to get these as well.

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 02:01 PM

Gabe,
I would like to remove some camber in the back to help with an understeer problem that I have (my car's lowered so I have more camber than I want). Do your LCAs have enough adjustment so that I can take some camber out?
Thanks
Tom
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 02:10 PM

Tom,

I'm no expert, but it would seem that removing camber on the rear if you have too much (assumedly to improve rear grip), will further shift the balance of the car rearwards and make your understeering problem worse?

Dave
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 04:01 PM

aziza z said:

I dont think it will either. But Im hoping it will. If not im oping to replace it with a longer bolt (grade 8). I will post my findings. Im kind of surprised that no one with an ls motor is running the TTT adjustable tension rods.



I've got the TT TC rods on my lt-1 car. I've got .50 inches of threads showing. I think Johns kit is 3/16 inch steel. That leaves 1/16 inch of threads showing.
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Posted 12 March 2009 - 04:57 PM

My only concern with this design is the lack of triangulation. What are your thoughts on this Gabriel?
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 02:41 AM

Excellent price on these, if the dollar wasn't so crap at the moment I'd order some for sure!
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 05:55 AM

thehelix112 said:

Tom,

I'm no expert, but it would seem that removing camber on the rear if you have too much (assumedly to improve rear grip), will further shift the balance of the car rearwards and make your understeering problem worse?

Dave


Reducing the rear camber will cause the back end of the car to loose traction sooner (oversteer). Righ now the front of the car looses traction first (understeer) because I've got a staggered tire setup. I need to get the back end to break loose earlier so reducing camber in the back is one way of doing it.
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