Accurate Injection

Derek: A 60-2 Version of the Crank kit would sale as well! Kevin

Try looking in the Sporting Goods Store for Aluminum Baseball Bats! Or use a Baseball Bat as a Mandrel to form your taper! Hope that helps! Kevin

Hahahah! This project is on Permenent Hold guy! We have way to many other projects ahead of this one! We can build an ITB kit for the motor if that's where your interest lies, but if your mainly interested in the Motor Swap we can't help Sorry! Thanks Kevin

Looking good Joe! Kevin

Car was sold to a very happy Customer in the Biloxi MS. Area! Hopefully he will continue to develop the potential of the Motor! Kevin

Tony: I just saw your Post/Question/Comment! Sorry for not replying sooner! I agree with you if the Electronics is not sophisicated enough to handle the MAP sensor Control functions, then you need Alpha-n/MAP Blend to steady the Load INPUT to inject the correct amount of fuel. The Bullseye is much easier to hit, if it's not jumping all over the place! With that said....................If the Map Sensor is only sampling 1 cylinder, when the cylinder in question is only on the intake stroke in a defined narrow section where you know the exhaust Valve is Closed..................... what do you think? It may NOT develop 30kpa with that high of lift/Dur, but we have a rock steady MAP signal, and only the resolution of the sensor suffers, not make the sensor completely useless at idle! More importantly the MAP sensor Control Function allows fully sequential injection without the hassel of a CAM Sensor! Not trying to Jack this Thread, as this is a COMMON Issue that effects ALL ITB Company's not just Extrudabody! Derek when you install that new CAM, your tuning world is going to change! As I'm sure you know already! Kevin Below are the Parameters JUST TO SET-UP the MAP sensor! We are working on some Cutting Edge $hit here guys! Kevin Thornton www.extrudabody.com 509-498-8555

I hear ya on the Auto-X, I had the BMW with ITB's Screaming the other Day on a TEST Drive and it Spit a Valve Spring at 7000 rpm, and the Dime is getting a new HEAD this week, seems like when Sh#$ happens it all happens at once around here! Here's a Fun Thread........ looking forward to seeing what this does: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1268384 Kevin

What's worse is walking by the Engine Every Day knowing you don't have the time to devote to it! Kevin

I hear ya buddy! "He who hath the gidas, gets did first" Kevin

Hahaha! Well not quite true, but my motives were not all innocent. One from an encouragement point of view as my Mentor "Bob Ream" in this business once said "There's enough room for all of us" you will find Extrudabody reselling his Billet V8 manifolds on our website and he has some nice Throttle Bodies of his own! Now the Selfish part, I was hoping you would need some Kick A$$ Electronics in the near future! Build your Parts Derek, in time it will pay for the tooling, and you never know what door will open next! I finally sold to a Dealer I had prospected 12 years ago! Kevin

Hey Tony: Hopefully Extrudabody will be changing this "pretty advanced ECU incorporating Alpha-N/MAP blend for fuel economy and drivability" very soon! We have a 4 cylinder ITB Set-up running now on Extrudabody Electronics where there's no Alpha-N or MAP Blend and produces 30kpa at Idle. It does require a 60-2 or 30-1 Crank Sensor set-up though! It's also Sequential injection without a CAM sensor, and has a OBD2 Plug that works with most OBD2 Scan Tools! Derek: To quote a famous line in a Movie "If you build it, they will come" You have a product no one can compete with, you are in that Proverbal Ball Park all by yourself! Kevin

Wish we could, hell the best thing is to buy in Cali, fly out, and drive back, hopefully then you have a Rust free Datsun to Sale or Build! Kevin

Take it from someone who has made that trip in a 1978 Z-Car! It's WAY OVER RATED! Hahahaha! It took 7 days, vapor locking thru AZ, NM and TX, it was on a Stock Datsun EFi Fuel Rail though!!

I have no experience with the Harness myself, but it's my understanding the older ECU was easier to use because the Tuner was more familiar with it, and it does not have alot of the Fuel Trim, DBW issues as the VK56 ECU does when it comes to manipulating the software! Kevin

A Little Update: Kurt Scherbaum "Mr. Fabricator" Made over 400hp and 385Tq @ the Wheels with Extrudabody 45mm Taper Bore ITB's and Jim Wolf Tech Cams on an otherwise STOCK MOTOR! Add 20 to 25% for Drivetrain Loses and you see some Fantastic Crank HP/TQ numbers! Kurt Dynoed the Rear Engine Buggy this past weekend at Jim Wolf Technologies HQ in Southern California with tuning help by "Clark" of JWT fame on a converted VH45 ECU & harness running a MAF Sensor and Plenum design seen below! Congrates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and a Very special THANKS from Extrudabody to Kurt and his TEAM for there efforts! Kevin

Keep up the excellent work Joe! Looking great! Kevin

Hahahaha! Unfortuately for you and I no! This is brand new testing from our Elctronincs Partner which equates to close to 15 years of refinement on the Electronics Software and hardware! Holler at me thru oour regular email lets chat about the future! Tried it on some spare/scrap stuff for some testing, it works good, beats chunking parts when they can be used for testing purposes! Kevin

Not to steal the Thread, but hopefully to help! This may interest some in the future! Derek you may want to look at Extrudabody Electronic's as well in the future! There's no Vacum Log, vacuum sampling is done on the last runner of a 4 or 6 cylinder, uses a TMAP sensor mounted directly in #4 Runner. This engine only has a 60-2 Crank Trigger, no CAM SENSOR! Wideband self tune control is working excellent on the itb's, as is the 4th runner MAP sampling – shows idle MAP as 30 kPa, exactly the same as with a manifold! Also, it’s synchronizing with the engine for sequential injection, and – SEQUENTIAL IGNITION (we made a small box that splits the signals, and as long as the dwell doesn’t exceed 50%, it can double the number of outputs, and fire 4 or 6 coils sequentially)! With ITBs, the VE is a little different though, at the medium loads - probably from the runner length changes, and the hack-job adapter that we made for the ITB's.

We are working on this as well with the NEW Electronics! We are working on "Window" Based Vacuum Sampling, Basically sampling only 1 runner with a TMAP at only a small portion of the 720 degree engine Cycle. TMAP is totally ignored except for this Window in time. Not sure if the Mega Squirt offers this or if some of you could write the Code to make it work! May be a solution for you, the jury is still out on our testing at the moment! Quote: Hi Phar Well now that you mention it I've been wondering if I saw the two inner horns off would they work on a L20? Those 510 guys have a lot more money than we do! Derek I would not count on the above statement being true! Kevin

Hey Derek: I had 105hp and 135Tq @ the wheels on a Worn 2.8ltr, that was thru the stock Manifold though! Numbers are not that bad in my opinion! Kevin

Good Job Derek! A goal accomplished after extreme labor is a reward all should feel! Congrates! Kevin Extrudabody

Derek: Give me a Call at Extrudabody before you spend your Money! Kevin

Hey Derek: I've been watching your thread! Nice work Buddy! Throttle Plate seal is critical, more than .002" "Butterfly to bore" clearance and the IAC Valve is a MUTE Point, as it will not idle less than 1300-1500rpm. The smaller the Displacement of the motor and the larger the ITB's are this Tolerance goes down from there! Nice IAC Unit, you been Peaking in my Computer? Kevin

Yeah Well my Best Bud, owns a Cherry 510 and I can't get him to take the plunge either! He was down this past weekend helping me in the shop, and every time I caught him staring at the engine Compartment of mine, I would hit him with a Shop towel, and yell There wipe the drool off the fender! Subtle Hint I know! Kevin

Hahahahahah! Good One! That's Cool on the other Forums, never know who is trolling the forums or what you might see! Here's some of our 3D Work, and something a little different! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160309559792&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem= Baby Extrusions!!!!!!!!!! Kevin