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  1. On 2/25/2022 at 12:17 PM, AydinZ71 said:

    Ah! you are in Humboldt county. My in-laws live in Eureka, and we visit several times a year.

     

    Here are some thoughts for you. The triple Webbers with bare air-horns look cool as hell, but for long-term daily driving you really should have air filters on them. If you are putting on filters, might as well consider an "air box" to funnel cool air in-front of your radiator back to your carbs. Since your header is directly below your carbs, sourcing cool air for your intake will have a noticeable effect on your performance, especially in situations like traffic or continuous high-load operation. The caveat would be if you are applying a quality header coating like Swain, which will actually drop your engine compartment temperatures considerably. In that case, you can perform some sheet-metal work in your engine bay to ensure warm air from your rad is not flowing to your carbs, and the "air box" idea is not as necessary.

     

    If you do decide to funnel air from space in front of your radiator (as I am), you can have your catch can vent to your intake duct (ahead of your throttle bodies) which will just get sucked into the engine again and out the exhaust. I agree you do not want to connect your catch can vent to anywhere BEHIND your throttle bodies, as this will be unmetered gas and your carbs will be impossible to tune. 

     

    If your oil is not milky, and your coolant does not exhibit oil sheen, you are probably OK. No harm in pressure-testing your cooling system to verify. Even pulling the head is pretty easy, and you just need another head gasket. 

    Yep Eureka is 15 minutes away, small world.

     

    I wrapped my headers with fiberglass wrap so the heat is not bad in the engine compartment.  I have slip on foam air filters over the trumpets but no air box.

  2. On 2/25/2022 at 12:20 PM, NewZed said:

    You're not going to blow a head gasket from excess crankcase pressure.  Maybe a valve cover or oil pan gasket.

     

    The milky stuff would be because combustion gases contain water and you had blocked the path for combustion blowby to escape.  Don't tear your engine down for the wrong reasons.

    Good to know, I have seen what the oil and coolant looks like with blown head gaskets and this doesn't look like it BUT I will do a leak down test anyway because I just bought the damn tester and the car has a miss and at one point I thought I may have had sticking valves as it was fluttering pretty bad but then again I have not tuned these Weber's yet. Just want to make sure the mechanical part of the engine is working correctly before I start tuning these carbs and possibly rejetting if needed. Here on the coast the humidity is high and moisture could be under the valve cover mixing with the combustion gasses maybe creating the white sooty stuff under the oil cap.

     

  3. 2 hours ago, AydinZ71 said:

    In order for the catch can you work, it has to be open to atmospheric (air) pressure. That way, gas flows from the engine, through the can, and back out somewhere. Attached is a schematic of my setup. You can either put a breather on top, or route the gases back to your intake the way I am showing (reduce stinky engine bay while car is on). 
     

    why do you want a catch can anyway? Im putting one in reluctantly per race class rules. For many years, I have seen people put a breather filter at the valve cover and crank case vents and be done with it. Only downside as I said is the vapors just hang-around in the engine bay and some inevitably get into you cab. The can doesn’t help you here. You need to route the gases back into your intake system. 

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    Yeah after seeing how I routed my hoses like a dummy it made since that the pressure would not escape. I hope I didnt blow my head gasket as I found alittle white residue up under the oil filler cap and also way up on the oil dip stick. The oil seems ok and clear and clean and i didnt see any oil in the coolant but you never know. I will do a leak down test on it next week.

     

    The reason for the catch can is that with these triple Weber's there really Isn't a place in the cannon manifold to connect the line unless I tap into the brake booster port or drill and tap a new inlet but I dont want to add metal shavings into the intake while it's still on the car, the other reason for adding the can is that this car has a fresh white paint job including the engine bay and I didnt want black soot from breather filters getting all over the place, I think I will plug the bottom engine block port and run the hose from the valve cover into the inlet of the catch can and then add a breather to the outlet of the catch can.  This catch can has a brass baffle filter on the inlet side to help catch alot of debris.  I will see how it works.  Cant believe I routed the hoses like that the first time lol.

     

    I unhooked the hose going from the catch can to the block last night and the pressure was released from the block and the blowby went away. I'm going to clean it up better this week.  Thanks for the advice..

  4. Have a early 71 240Z that I have been working on off and on for years trying to get it on the road and there is always something to fix. In this episode we have blow-by blowing my oil dipstick out and spraying oil all over the engine compartment while just idling for 10 minutes.. I have not really ever got this car road worthy enough to say it did or didn't do it before. But I switched to triple Weber's and decided to remove all the PCV stuff and I added a catch can. I had done a compression test not too long ago and everything looked pretty even, but I thought maybe I had a stuck valve because the carbs dont run so well but that maybe just needs a fine tuning after rebuilding and installing them for the first time. 

     

    As far as the catch can installed, this is how I routed the hoses and after looking at it I dont believe there is anyway to vent anything, it just comes off the valve cover, goes to the can on one side and the other side of the can goes to the lower crankcase pipe. Do you guys recommend a batter way to route the hoses or add a filter maybe? Not my engine in this picture but this is how I routed the can. It may not be right and not venting anywhere lol.  Oops..

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  5. Ok so I found the problem.  I checked continuity from the main power wire from the alternator and followed it to where the in and out connection is for the Ammeter under the glove box passenger kick panel area. The 2 Spade connections for the Red/White wire and White wire were really corroded and not making a good connection, I cleaned the female and male spade connectors and now I get 13.85 volts at the battery. With just the ignition key on but motor not running you could jiggle the wire connections and here the relay kick on and off due to the bad connection..The only thing that concerns me is this is a 60 amp alternator replacing the 45amp? The spaded wires are warm to the touch when the car is running, alittle more amperage on those wires I guess.  looks like they got alittle hot before though with the 45 amp alternator as one of the clear plastic connector sleeves was slightly melted and discolored. I'm going to keep an eye on it.

     

    Now to move on to another issue on this damn car. Never been able to get the carbs to run right with SUs and now with Triple Weber's also. While the car was running earlier the oil dip stick shot out and it sounded like I cut the valve stem off a bicycle tire. Haven't dug into this yet but this could be bad..  A stuck valve perhaps? Might post this in another part of the forum if I get stuck diagnosing it.  Thanks for the alternator info..

  6. I have a early 71 240z that is not charging the battery I checked all the fuses behind the ash tray and they were good (PO added a aftermarket fuse box with spade type fuses)....

     

    I took the stock alternator down and it tested bad at the parts store, so I ordered a rebuilt replacement and installed it. It still didnt charge the battery, I swapped 2 other old external voltage regulators that I had on different parts cars and still no charge at battery (guess they could have all been bad). The reman alternator was putting out like 40 volts out of the back of it ,seems like a bit much.

     

    Changed plans and returned that first reman alternator and decided to go with the 280ZX alternator upgrade instead. I installed the 280ZX alternator and I also bought the little diode plug adapter from Z Car source and plugged it into my factory harness..I'm getting around 16 volts off the alternator now but it's not charging the battery only getting like 11.9 volts at the battery.  Has anyone ran into this issue? What could be going wrong here? Advice would be much appreciated.

  7. I took another close look. Looks like the front clip ledge that the fender extension goes on is bowed in alittle.  It is also the area where the hood hinges bolt to. Looks as if it was hit in the downward position on the front passenger side causing the hood hinge bolts and section to sit 5/8" lower than on the drivers side. I dont believe the car was in a major collision just a light tap in that area. I think I'm going to remove the fender and hood and try to pull that area up a little until I get that bottom hinge bolt to around the same height as on the drivers side from the ground up. Sucks but it has to be even. 

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  8. Got the car started a few weeks ago. Turns out it was the wrong distributor and base for my car. The off centered slot on the bottom that fit over the oil pump shaft was completely opposite to another 240z distributor that I got, as soon as I installed the other distributor it fired right up for the first time in decades.   Both distributors set to TDC but the slot on the bottom is 180 off.

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  9. On 11/13/2021 at 9:38 PM, toolman said:

    5 Star Rising,

        By your description of different gaps on your Core Support and your Hood Height problems, you might have Twisted Core Support.

    To verify that conclusion, you must make measurements  of your front end.   Place your car on a flat hard surface.   Make your wheels in straight

    ahead direction.   Take measurements in inches or millimeters.   First, always measure from factory bolt holes vertically to the ground .    Start at the 10mm bolt attached to the front inside of the Ringt and Left Headlight housings.   Since this is the furthest bolt that is attached to the

    Front Core Support,  any body damage will show up as significant differances in your Right and Left Ground Height measurements.

    If the damage is not too bad , it still can repaired but probably need a body shop to do the work.  Please use measurements(in inches or

    millimeters)  to describe your problems.  This procedure will aid in determining how to fix your problem.

                                                                                                                            Tool Man

     

     

     I took a break from this car, but I'm back at it and still have the hood issue obviously. I took some measurements from the ground to the first hood hinge bolt on each side and the

    passenger side of the car sits a whopping 5/8"s lower than the drivers side. It looks like everything is like 5/8 off. The drivers side of the hood sits up  high and its hood hinge is bottomed out ontop of the bumper bracket and cant go down any further and that's even after slotting the holes.  I could still slot the actual hood holes and that might bring down the hood on the drivers side But I would still have a issue on the passenger side where the hood cant go any further down without it teetering up at the cowl side.  It's like the passenger side of the car needs to come up 5/8".. that's around the location where the car was slightly hit. How can this be done with out screwing up the paint?  This is bummer.

  10. 7 hours ago, Mayolives said:

    The comments above all seam valid.  I'm assuming you have rotated the distributor in both directions while having the same result.  There are several different distributor bases or "fixing plates" as the FSM calls them.  Each was designed to go with different distributors.  Using the wrong one will greatly effect timing adjustment.  Just my two cents worth based on a similar problem I had with my 280zx.     

     

    Somewhere, perhaps here on hybridz or at classiczcar there is a post with a link that has photos of each base and describes to which distributor it matches up with.  I haven't been able to locate it but hopefully someone with point you to it.

    Thanks for the heads up. Yeah I'm not sure what distributor this is for. It came from a 73 240z that someone had put a L28 in. It had the stock flat top carbs installed on it so I assumed they used the stock distributor too but you never know. Could be different to fit the L28 set up I'm not sure.  Distributors are getting harder to find by these days and if you do they are pretty expensive.

  11. I'm going to mess with it later today. I was going to squirt some oil in the cylinders but cant find my little pump oiler can, going to find it later, pull the valve cover and oil every thing up. So the #1 cam lobe being straight up 12 o'clock while it's at TDC is not correct? Thought I read that some where but could be wrong.  I had pulled and stabbed the distributor a few times and rolled the motor by hand to make sure it wasn't on the exhaust stroke. Crank pointer at Zero, cyl#1 to top of chamber and rotor pointing at #1 spark plug wire on the cap.

     

    The linkage on the round top carbs was all frozen and the they had placed aftermarket throttle springs that were are rusted and broken, the throttle screw on the front carb is missing so I have the linkage clamped together with small vise grips and added a new throttle spring. I honestly spent 15 minutes doing this, definitely not how I will fix any of the problems permanently, just trying to move the car into the backyard for now.  But maybe the carbs are really messed up... You would think it would run for 5 seconds atleast when lifting up the carb pistons and spraying starting fluid in the Intake. That's why I was still stuck on the spark issue.

  12. So a few months ago I picked up another 240z. This 73 had been sitting in a guys garage for 20 years and I'm trying to start it for the first time. When I bought it, it was missing the distributor, the seller said he had pulled it and gave it to another guy that he had sold his other 240z to. Luckily I have a rusted 73 parts car but I dont know the history of that motor, it has a L28 in it with the 73 flat top carbs, I pulled the distributor from it, dont know if it's good but there is not much to them.

     

     I Installed a new set of points, and condensor, set the gap and put the distributor onto my new 73 that I just got. This car has been changed to round top carbs and the guy I bought it from said he drove it 2 miles and parked it in the garage/barn 20 years ago and there it sat.

     

    I'm getting spark from the coil and to the ends of the spark plug wires.  I dont have fuel in the car yet as I have just been spraying starting fluid in the carbs to see if it will run for 5 seconds like I have done to a bunch of 240zs in the past. but instead I just get a backfire every now and then. It almost feels like the distributor is 180 off but it only goes in one way. I set the car to TDC physically watched #1 piston come to the top using a flash light and looking through the spark plug hole.. I lined up "0" on the crankshaft to point mark. The rotor points to the #1 plug wire on the cap like it should.

     

    I think I read somewhere that the cam lobes on #1 need to be facing up when it's in TDC when looking through the oil cap hole. The lobes are not up, they are at like 10 o'clock. Could the timing chain have skipped and it's so far off that it wont fire up? I'm trying to check all the simple stuff first before tearing into the motor. He said he drove it and parked it. I did not mess with the oil pump or oil pump shaft, just dropped in the new distributor. Wonder if these carbs could be so far out or gummed up that it wont even run for 5 seconds. At this point I just want it to run enough so i can drive it out of the driveway and into the back yard on it's own power doesn't have to run perfect. As I will restore the car another time. What can I check or try at this point to get her running?

  13. 6 hours ago, Miles said:

    This worked for me when the nose of the hood wouldn't align with the headlight buckets:

     

    https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/42496-hood-alignment/

     

    To lower the hood, you have to tilt the hood.

    Get the hood wide open, loosen the 2x 2 bolts between the hinges & the hood.

    Then push gently with your knee on the bottom side, where the emblem is, and pull towards you the top. Clamp the bolts.

    That will create a rotation motion of the hood that will lower the front while it will be closed. Try to close it gently since hood might still rub against the fenders.

    To center it, you have to play with top/bottom position with a translation, still with the same bolts. If it is too far on the left, you have to lower the right side & to rise left side.

    I know how it works, I still fight each time I want to put everything back together.

    This has definitely been a learning experience. I have the grill out now and the hinges are all the way down on the body on both sides you could see the gap difference from the radiator support to the bottom of hood when the hood is closed. Way bigger gap on the drivers side than the passenger side and the mounting bolts line up straight across to the radiator support in different locations. Body could be tweaked alittle. Think I will try to get some new burr bits tomorrow and wallow out the hood holes a little to drop the hood down on the right side hopefully.... Sucks

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  14. Thanks Toolman that's great info. 

     

    What I did last night before reading this post was swap my hinges and rods as a unit that was pulled out of a straight 1977 280Z. I noticed that these do not spring up when pushed down so that's good,  however I still have some alignment issues. I slotted the tops of the hinges to be able to push them down farther while I had the unit out but didn't make that big of a difference..

     

    Still the front of my hood on the driver's side sticks up and the side gaps are different with the drivers side gap being larger and the passenger side gap being tight. I shimmed the hood to bracket mounting point on the passenger side with fat washers and it helped a tiny bit but the gap is still different from the left and right sides of the hood to fender gap. I believe the car was hit on the passenger side as that's where I remember pulling the radiator support out slightly and the original hood was pushed in and bent down alittle if I remember.

     

    I feel like the passenger headlight bucket is pointing down alittle in the front making the hood look like its sitting up higher.

     

    I wonder if I could somehow slot the headlight bucket to swivel up a little and maybe slot the actual hood mounting holes a bit so the hood might come down farther. I'm not a big fan of constantly removing this painted hood, just a matter of time before it gets damaged (hope not) but I guess its what's needed to figure this out.

     

    Here is some more pics. Things look alittle better with the new hinges but still got some fitment issues. The headlight bucket bolts are loose btw.

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  15. Here is a few pics but be advised that I have "everything" loose so there really isn't a good picture to describe what I'm dealing with because every adjustment I make gives a different result but I cant seem to get everything lined up with out having one side too high and the other side perfect..

     

    There is a picture of the passenger side of the car that has one of the tortion bars popped out of its track in the hinge assembly. Seemed like it lowered the front of the hood a little.  My hinges would spring down when pushing on the hood and then spring back up above the fender when I let go, this is with the hinge to body mounts all the way down. I read somewhere that those bars can weaken or the hinges can get play in them and get worn out.

     

    I have a few S30s so I pulled an entire hinge assembly with bars off a 77 280z and cleaned it up and painted it tonight, tomorrow after its dry, I will remove the hood and install this new hinge assembly and see if there is any difference. But still could be that the unibody or hood is just tweaked.. 😭

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  16. On 10/8/2021 at 12:54 PM, jonbill said:

    if you can get it low enough at the front but its too high at the bulkhead, the height can be adjusted by screwing in the catch bolt in the bonnet. 

    if that doesnt make any difference, check if the bonnet is resting on the rad core support at the front. if it is, you'll have to take the bumper off z loosen all the wing bolts and raise it a bit and start again. 

     

    The hood sometime hits the front grill top when opening and closing. Got it pretty low in the front. What catch bolt in the hood are you referring to? Not sure I follow. 

  17. On 10/8/2021 at 2:00 PM, grannyknot said:

    Post pics, we need to see what you are seeing, it does sound like the unibody and or hood are not in their proper shape.

    I would try to get the hood sitting flush with cowl and fenders and then start working on the hinges, there's lots of tweaking that can be done to the hinges and because some of these hinges are quite worn you may have to enlarge to mounting holes so the hinge unit can sit farther down than normally.

    Also the 8 hex head screws that hold the fender on in the gap between the fender and hood are not a standard M6x1mm, The head is not as tall/thick as the rest of the M6x1mm screws and there is only one thin washer with no lock washer.

    Hmm well that could be something right there also. I have full size head stainless bolts with a lock washer and regular washer. However I did remove all of those just to see if the hood would sit flat and it still didn't lay right. Almost like it's a teeter totter in the middle.  It's not that drastic but definitely cant get it right. Going to take some photos and try the advice given.

  18. Ok so I think I really screwed up here but thought I would ask anyway 😔.  I have a 71 series 1 240z 12/70.  I painted it myself for the first time painting any car and it came out great, I spent countless hours on youtube and calling around for advice on what to do and what not to do what to use and what not to use, order of things to do it in. But this is something that I missed and wish I would have read it or done before I painted the car. ALIGN ALL THE PANELS FIRST then paint the car. I did it the opposite and now I think I'm screwed. The hood won't align.

     

    After the car was painted I aligned the doors to the quarters and they are not perfect but decent, I then aligned the fenders to the doors with the same result, mounted the cowl panel and inspection lids, lastly I installed the hood. I should also mention that this is not the correct hood for the car this hood came off a early 260Z. I remember spending countless hours trying to get the sheetmetal straight on this hood as it was a bit warped but overall the actual framing of the hood was straight and original. Here is another thing, the hood that came off my car was damaged I believe it was hit slightly in the front,  I remember having to pull out my radiator support slightly with a come-along attached to a tree, I did not look totalled but you could tell there was a small collision that had occurred. 

     

    So my new painted hood won't align correctly. It's either too high in the front and sits above the fender extension buckets or if adjusted down in the front it sits like a 1" too high in the rear near the cowl panel. Some times it hit the bolts on the side gaps when trying to close. I have loosed the brackets that mount to the body and literally spent 8 hours trying to find a good combination that I can live with as far as an adjustment and it's always off, its really frustrating and depressing. I have loosened the fenders and the headlight buckets to try to move them around but they don't really move much and I'm being careful not to mess up the paint...i have even taken out my grinder and grinded down a 1/2" of the hood inner lip that was contacting the fender "wish i wouldn't have done that" but its just the lip and can be touched up. Still it won't close, I have the latch completely off, just trying to get the hood to lay closed on its own.

     

    I read somewhere that sometimes the hoods are different and may not fit right from different years. I have another 240z a 73 that has its correct hood. I also have another set of hood hinges and twist bars off a 280z. Wonder if I should try swapping stuff to see if it fits better and if my hood is the problem. But kind of leaning towards the unibody being slightly tweaked. Damn this sucks. I learned a big lesson here. I can push down in the front of the hood and the hinges will flex down and then spring back when letting go, wonder of that is normal or if my spring hinges are messed up.

     

    Doesn't look good for this situation but still hoping for some advice if there is anything else I could try.

     

    Thanks 

     

     

  19. Success! Tapped her in a bit tried the prybar and turn deal but didnt seem to work. Used a bunch of WD40 while vise grips were on the bolt and kept spinning it back and forth and pulling out at the same time.. finally she popped out. Loaded with rust. Almost looked like brown sugar.. totally dry meaning that Wd40 didn't reach that far back. Think the heat also really helped.

     

    The hole was completed packed with brown sugar rust. Made a little hook scraper with a coat hanger and was able to scratch and pull about 90% out. Then used compressed air to blow it out, then alittle brake cleaner, then more WD40. Pumped a few shots of Marvel mystery oil in there to sit. I need to find a long M8x125 tap to tap that hole better the standard size tap is too short. But should be good.

     

    Hope this helps someone else. If you feel like the bolt is going to snap STOP!! and regroup. The bolt was seized in the block at first and felt like it was going to snap. I used heat from a small propane torch directly in the center of the bolt head, the heat traveled through the bolt to the rear threads, careful not to torch other things on your engine when doing this likes seals you new block paint ect, I was careful. After heating the bolt in the center, get a ratchet and SLOWLY turn the bolt if it feels like it's going to break Stop and reheat. I was able to get it out of the block but my problem was it was stuck in the timing cover due to and insane amount of rust. Cheers

    Thanks for the help fellas.

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  20. 2 hours ago, grannyknot said:

    Your turning it back in then out right?  That's best way to break up rust, screw it back in almost all the way, squirt your penetrating fluid down the hole, back it out again.

    I may take a dozen times of back and forth, you can also alternate with heat and quenching with penetrating fluid.

    That is probably the worst bolt to remove at the front of the engine, you're probably the first person to do it since the assembly line.

    I have been scared to push it back in because I think its away from the threads in the block and only stuck in the cover but may have to try that. I feel like it could break at any moment. I'm so close haha..  It may be the original water pump, says ASUGI or something like that on it. It wasn't leaking but figured since I have the motor out it might be a good idea to change it, what a brave and dumb soul I am for attempting this. I hear alot of broken bolt stories about this. Well just got home from work, I'm going to have another go at it.

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