OK GUYS Z32 tranny on an L28 . . . - Page 3

rags · November 13th, 2005, 05:11 PM

Mike,

I don't know if you already answered me about this but do the Z32 and Z33 bell housings have the same bolt pattern? And if so, Ken, when are you stopping by to pick mine up to bring back to Florida with you???

Joe

Z-Gad · November 13th, 2005, 06:15 PM

I am not sure of the bell housing bolt patterns, but Mark said that he could do the Z33 adaptor as well, just send him the bell...you may have to do the tranny mount for your car for the Z33 as I am unsure of dimensions, but that would be the easy part

tfreer85 · November 13th, 2005, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rags

Mike,

I don't know if you already answered me about this but do the Z32 and Z33 bell housings have the same bolt pattern? And if so, Ken, when are you stopping by to pick mine up to bring back to Florida with you???

Joe

No it is not a the same bolt pattern there is only a couple of Z32's running the Z33 6 speed and they did require adapter plates and the such. Most don't use the 6 speed because they don't like the gearing for their TT cars. But this doesn't mean that one can't be made for the L28 as well.

Tyson

thehelix112 · November 13th, 2005, 07:13 PM

Sorry to thread hi-jack a bit, but have any of you guys tried an SR box behind an L?

I just did the conversion, which you can do at your home with a die grinder and a drill and an afternoon. I know of one fellow pushing 244rwkw (maybe 330-350rwhp for you USers) through one for years without any issues and the SR gearboxes are reputedly relatively strong.

The gears are around 16% wider than the std 240Z 5-speed I was using anyway.

Has anyone pulled down a Z32 box to see if they offer any advantage over this?
Specs on some gearboxes: http://ozdat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6340
Tutorial on the conversion (with pics soon): http://ozdat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6393

Dave

TheNeedForZ · November 13th, 2005, 07:25 PM

thehelix112,

both the links you provided requires log in to view...

tfreer85 · November 13th, 2005, 07:45 PM

I believe there is a member running a KA behind their L28 can't remember who. I don't know if there are very many similarites between the SR and KA though.

Tyson

thehelix112 · November 13th, 2005, 08:09 PM

Guys,

Sorry about that:

Gearbox specs: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=105983
SR Gearbox tutorial: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=105982

Dave

Garrett76Zt · November 13th, 2005, 10:16 PM

SR tranny is identical to the KA tranny . . . just different bellhousing. I am currently running one on my turbo setup... this tranny will not hold the power I plan to make. Keep in mind that an SR with 350hp has alot less torque than 350hp on the L. I just did it cause they are easy/cheap to find.

Thanks for the update MIKE!!

thehelix112 · November 13th, 2005, 10:35 PM

I was talking about a L making 350rwhp. Plus, not all SRs rev that much higher.

Dave

Z-Gad · November 14th, 2005, 06:05 AM

Yep, read the tutorial, and nice write-up BTW, but I am ready for a tranny that I do not have to worry about babying or breaking. The SR and KA guys making serious power are getting away from their trannys as well and going to the Z32 5-speed.

violacleff · November 14th, 2005, 08:40 PM

What does a Z32 tranny go for at the JY? Whatever it is its gotta be cheaper than doing a G-force T5. If this turns out well, i'tll make me less regretful that I didn't go rb25 as the tranny gives it a big advantage over a 400hp L.

kjones · November 15th, 2005, 05:51 AM

I got mine at the JY for $300... They had 1 more for $350... They were located in Cocoa Florida... I forget the name.

SleeperZ · November 15th, 2005, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehelix112

I was talking about a L making 350rwhp. Plus, not all SRs rev that much higher.

Dave

I'm thinking a T5 would be fine with that power. I'm not making quite that much, but Shane and others do fine for years at 350-400 with a T5.

Muskrat · November 23rd, 2005, 02:31 PM

Bump, any updates?

Z-Gad · November 24th, 2005, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muskrat

Bump, any updates?

I dropped by the shop yesterday. He has my block, bell housing, starter, etc and will be working on it after the holiday weekend.
mike

datsunan · November 26th, 2005, 02:31 PM

I'm in when you are ready to order.

Jason Jarvis · November 26th, 2005, 06:01 PM

I'm interested in this as well, assuming the price is in my affordable range...

Thanks,

Jason

ww · November 26th, 2005, 09:29 PM

Since my GForce T5 has been on the back burner for the last 6 months as I work to finish my ZXT, it might be fortuitous that a much less costly alternative has arrived.

I have a couple of friends with 500+ hp in their Z32's with the stock tranny and one that's running over 700hp.

If it's a simple bell housing mod+adapter, I think this may be the solution to many of our problems. And if it comes in significantly under the $2500 for the modified T5, I'll be a happy camper. Although, I will miss the light weight of the T5, I'll just have to turn the boost up a bit more to compensate.

What are the gear ratios on the Z32 tranny? Fortunately, I have 3.545, 3.7, 3.9 and 4.11 R200's so I'll be able to get the right final drive regardless of the gearing, but it would be nice to know which one I'll need to prep.

Cheers,
WW

240hoke · November 26th, 2005, 11:12 PM

I definitly want to do this swap, count me in! I really hope this works out, keep us posted

Muskrat · November 27th, 2005, 10:56 AM

Found these in the ever helpful Z Design Studio on geocities, for the turbo Z32 (though the NA should be the same).
first 3.214
sec 1.925
thir 1.302
four 1.000
fifth .752

November 13th, 2005, 06:15 PM	#42
Z-Gad Ludicrous speed, GO! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 1,399	I am not sure of the bell housing bolt patterns, but Mark said that he could do the Z33 adaptor as well, just send him the bell...you may have to do the tranny mount for your car for the Z33 as I am unsure of dimensions, but that would be the easy part __________________ 71 240z 2JZGTE TH400, 76mm turbo, 3.36 R200 rearend - 8.915 @ 153.60 TechnoToyTuning 2.94 geared R230 rearend - 9.038 @ 152.14 (so far) http://album.hybridz.org/showgallery...00&ppuser=7981 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/a...e90005d70d.htm 02 IS300 Sportcross (daily) 07 Solar Orange 350Z Roadster (wife's car) 03 Ford Excursio-saurus 4x4 Diesel A really bad want is a justifiable need ...

November 13th, 2005, 07:13 PM	#44
thehelix112 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: So. Cal Posts: 1,306	Sorry to thread hi-jack a bit, but have any of you guys tried an SR box behind an L? I just did the conversion, which you can do at your home with a die grinder and a drill and an afternoon. I know of one fellow pushing 244rwkw (maybe 330-350rwhp for you USers) through one for years without any issues and the SR gearboxes are reputedly relatively strong. The gears are around 16% wider than the std 240Z 5-speed I was using anyway. Has anyone pulled down a Z32 box to see if they offer any advantage over this? Specs on some gearboxes: http://ozdat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6340 Tutorial on the conversion (with pics soon): http://ozdat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6393 Dave __________________ USA Daily: 1978 280Z, minor suspension upgrades. AUS Race Car: 1973 240Z, L28ET, Autronic, GT35R. AUS Project: 1972 1600, 3200km old S15 SR20DET, ground up rebuild.

November 13th, 2005, 07:45 PM	#46
tfreer85 Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 596	I believe there is a member running a KA behind their L28 can't remember who. I don't know if there are very many similarites between the SR and KA though. Tyson __________________ Tyson

November 13th, 2005, 08:09 PM	#47
thehelix112 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: So. Cal Posts: 1,306	Guys, Sorry about that: Gearbox specs: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=105983 SR Gearbox tutorial: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=105982 Dave __________________ USA Daily: 1978 280Z, minor suspension upgrades. AUS Race Car: 1973 240Z, L28ET, Autronic, GT35R. AUS Project: 1972 1600, 3200km old S15 SR20DET, ground up rebuild.

November 13th, 2005, 10:16 PM	#48
Garrett76Zt Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 503	SR tranny is identical to the KA tranny . . . just different bellhousing. I am currently running one on my turbo setup... this tranny will not hold the power I plan to make. Keep in mind that an SR with 350hp has alot less torque than 350hp on the L. I just did it cause they are easy/cheap to find. Thanks for the update MIKE!! __________________ '76 280z - L28et (3.0 liter w/ forged pistons) - "Blowzilla" T3/T4 Turbo - 3" Exhaust - 70mm TB - SDS - 450cc Injectors - Custom Intake Manifold - Spearco IC - Meth Injection - STOCK HEAD/CAM 460whp 430ft lbs 11.248@124.17

November 13th, 2005, 05:11 PM	#41
rags Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Westwood,NJ Posts: 764	Mike, I don't know if you already answered me about this but do the Z32 and Z33 bell housings have the same bolt pattern? And if so, Ken, when are you stopping by to pick mine up to bring back to Florida with you??? Joe

November 13th, 2005, 07:25 PM	#45
TheNeedForZ Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: British Columbia(west Canada) Posts: 828	thehelix112, both the links you provided requires log in to view...

November 13th, 2005, 10:35 PM	#49
thehelix112 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: So. Cal Posts: 1,306	I was talking about a L making 350rwhp. Plus, not all SRs rev that much higher. Dave __________________ USA Daily: 1978 280Z, minor suspension upgrades. AUS Race Car: 1973 240Z, L28ET, Autronic, GT35R. AUS Project: 1972 1600, 3200km old S15 SR20DET, ground up rebuild.

November 14th, 2005, 06:05 AM	#50
Z-Gad Ludicrous speed, GO! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 1,399	Yep, read the tutorial, and nice write-up BTW, but I am ready for a tranny that I do not have to worry about babying or breaking. The SR and KA guys making serious power are getting away from their trannys as well and going to the Z32 5-speed. __________________ 71 240z 2JZGTE TH400, 76mm turbo, 3.36 R200 rearend - 8.915 @ 153.60 TechnoToyTuning 2.94 geared R230 rearend - 9.038 @ 152.14 (so far) http://album.hybridz.org/showgallery...00&ppuser=7981 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/a...e90005d70d.htm 02 IS300 Sportcross (daily) 07 Solar Orange 350Z Roadster (wife's car) 03 Ford Excursio-saurus 4x4 Diesel A really bad want is a justifiable need ...

November 14th, 2005, 08:40 PM	#51
violacleff Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 379	What does a Z32 tranny go for at the JY? Whatever it is its gotta be cheaper than doing a G-force T5. If this turns out well, i'tll make me less regretful that I didn't go rb25 as the tranny gives it a big advantage over a 400hp L. __________________ 73 240z 3.1L Turbo Stroker Forged Arias Total Seal Rings TS04/T58 HPI FMIC Greddy Type R bov HKS Ext. WG Haltech E6X RC500cc inj P90 Full P'N'P ARP studs HKS1mm hg 75 intake 240sxTB Cust surge tank JSK Fuel Rail Aeromotive fpr Walbro GSL 392 280zx 5spd 3in. turbo back exhaust , ACT 6 puck

November 15th, 2005, 05:51 AM	#52
kjones HybridZ Supporter Join Date: May 2001 Location: West Central FL Posts: 246	I got mine at the JY for $300... They had 1 more for $350... They were located in Cocoa Florida... I forget the name. __________________ Ken Jones 240Z LS2 collecting parts for conversion

November 23rd, 2005, 02:31 PM	#54
Muskrat Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, Tx Posts: 100	Bump, any updates? __________________ Mike 72 240z L28ET T04s/T3, MSNSe w/ WBo2, KYBs ST springs, 3.545 R200, PDK brace turbo swap in progress 94 240sx - daily

November 26th, 2005, 02:31 PM	#56
datsunan Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 240	I'm in when you are ready to order. __________________ JWT 400HP upgrade, t3/t4 ,Hybrid ic, 420cc inj, msd ign,Aeromotive fuel pump,jet coat mani and turbine, cobra MAF,60mm TB,fuel cell,rear discs,coilover springs,cv conversion,4piston drilled fnt,allum MSA rad,AVCR boost controller3.75 lsd 3" stainless DP with external 40mm Tial WG, JSK FR, Areomotive FPR,10lb fw http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/medium/scan2.jpg dyno graph

November 26th, 2005, 06:01 PM	#57
Jason Jarvis Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Knightdale, NC, USA Posts: 174	I'm interested in this as well, assuming the price is in my affordable range... Thanks, Jason

November 26th, 2005, 09:29 PM	#58
ww Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Left Coast Posts: 158	Since my GForce T5 has been on the back burner for the last 6 months as I work to finish my ZXT, it might be fortuitous that a much less costly alternative has arrived. I have a couple of friends with 500+ hp in their Z32's with the stock tranny and one that's running over 700hp. If it's a simple bell housing mod+adapter, I think this may be the solution to many of our problems. And if it comes in significantly under the $2500 for the modified T5, I'll be a happy camper. Although, I will miss the light weight of the T5, I'll just have to turn the boost up a bit more to compensate. What are the gear ratios on the Z32 tranny? Fortunately, I have 3.545, 3.7, 3.9 and 4.11 R200's so I'll be able to get the right final drive regardless of the gearing, but it would be nice to know which one I'll need to prep. Cheers, WW __________________

November 26th, 2005, 11:12 PM	#59
240hoke Hannah Montana fan club photographer. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 1,410	I definitly want to do this swap, count me in! I really hope this works out, keep us posted __________________ VQ35 swapped 71 240z: www.vq240z.com

November 27th, 2005, 10:56 AM	#60
Muskrat Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, Tx Posts: 100	Found these in the ever helpful Z Design Studio on geocities, for the turbo Z32 (though the NA should be the same). first 3.214 sec 1.925 thir 1.302 four 1.000 fifth .752 __________________ Mike 72 240z L28ET T04s/T3, MSNSe w/ WBo2, KYBs ST springs, 3.545 R200, PDK brace turbo swap in progress 94 240sx - daily

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