the start of the B.customs Z has begun..2jz 1000hp - Page 12

ShaggyZ · August 30th, 2009, 12:37 AM

Mike, I don't see anywhere that you responded to stony's suggestion to check your timing. I believe timing was the exact same reason streetfighter's 2JZ kept overheating when he first got it going. It would start up and run fine so we had plenty of time to hunt down the issue but we never checked the timing; a week of frustration for him as he finished up other parts and he finally got Justin Ninny(?) to recheck the base tune and found the timing was all out of wack. The overheating stopped and he picked up over 100HP or so before they really got to work on the tuning.

mike321go · August 30th, 2009, 09:17 PM

right now it doesnt run well enough to check timing

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaggyZ

Mike, I don't see anywhere that you responded to stony's suggestion to check your timing. I believe timing was the exact same reason streetfighter's 2JZ kept overheating when he first got it going. It would start up and run fine so we had plenty of time to hunt down the issue but we never checked the timing; a week of frustration for him as he finished up other parts and he finally got Justin Ninny(?) to recheck the base tune and found the timing was all out of wack. The overheating stopped and he picked up over 100HP or so before they really got to work on the tuning.

neotech84 · August 30th, 2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike321go

right now it doesnt run well enough to check timing

What???

I understand what you mean, but have you made sure all is lined up no advance just stock marks???

I would think that is one of the first places to start, its free and it will rule out one more thing......

But if you have then good for you and I missunderstood what you ment.

Hope that makes sence.

+.02

mike321go · August 31st, 2009, 01:12 PM

oh ya everything was set when the motor was on the engine stand. top dead center ect... the motor ran great a few weeks ago but now is stumbles and dies after it starts.

stony · August 31st, 2009, 01:17 PM

Is it still pump out black smoke? Have you tried to lean it out and it dosnt work?? if so you may have an injector problem.

As for timing PUT A TIMING GUN ON IT and check it. check your cam sprockets is you have them they are know for becoming loose and fully retarding or advancing cant remember which.
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Again i would recommend taking back to another shop that can get a base tune done for you. it will be cheaper in the end especially if it has issues.

Meph · September 2nd, 2009, 08:15 AM

fuel pump/ lack of fuel could would be a reason for that to happen too. Check your lines, make sure there isnt a pinch, check your filter. You chould pull your return line off and put it over the filler on the cell and cycle the fuel pump, make sure its feed fuel nice. Injectors could be clogged, they have a little screen filter on them too if you take them off and clear it out.

mike321go · September 4th, 2009, 11:12 AM

i met a guy at the race track with an 800hp lexus sc300 with a turbo 2j in it. he is running aem ems and told me what i have to do to get it to idol better...BAM last night i got the car idoling again! i had to change the setting of the idol control valve because the stock settings will not work with my huge intake manifold and throttle body

ShaggyZ · September 4th, 2009, 12:02 PM

That could do it.

Congrats! Now get to work, starting with checking the timing.

g00kb0i · September 5th, 2009, 12:13 AM

that has to be one of the best feelings. figuring out the bug.

240Z_478 · September 5th, 2009, 06:13 PM

Glad to hear all of the problems are being sorted out. Cant wait to see a video of the car running well.

stony · September 5th, 2009, 08:05 PM

OK now post some video of it running right. is it still overheating?

mike321go · September 7th, 2009, 08:07 PM

NO MORE OVERHEATING...... found the problem was my gauge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it wasnt set u right for the toyota temp sensor so it gave a false reading. car runs at idol very nicely we have run it a temp for long periods of time with no hoses failing or oil leaks!!! it revs nicley until 2500rpms it feels like hit hits a rev limiter. but since we can heat up the motor not we found a intake leak behnf the trottlebody that i need to fix!

Vette Powered · September 7th, 2009, 08:44 PM

Congrats! That's a great feeling. Problem found...

stony · September 7th, 2009, 10:27 PM

Ok now lets see some video

mike321go · September 8th, 2009, 04:04 PM

lol i have to take the intake manifold back off to get the flange resurfaced so the leak stops. or find a nice copper ring to use as a gasket. Yesturday i got a ride in this car tho!!!!!!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/I...1998_72281.htm

he came to look at my EMS

Phlebmaster · September 8th, 2009, 04:14 PM

He can't even keep that thing strait.

That's an insane ride for sure! I hope yours is just as insane.

mike321go · September 8th, 2009, 05:49 PM

ME too!!!!!! but my god i nearly peed my pants in that car!!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phlebmaster

He can't even keep that thing strait.

That's an insane ride for sure! I hope yours is just as insane.

stony · September 8th, 2009, 08:29 PM

OK not trying to be an ass.... but come on throwin the chute on the street????

ShaggyZ · September 8th, 2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stony

OK not trying to be an ass.... but come on throwin the chute on the street????

That's what I thought, but I decided to give them enough benefit of my doubt they were just testing out the chute.

stony · September 8th, 2009, 08:48 PM

That video is actually kinda old. he caught a rash of crap on yellowbullet for that. yea its fast but... REALLY!!!! on the street.

August 30th, 2009, 12:37 AM	#221
ShaggyZ Terminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 500	Mike, I don't see anywhere that you responded to stony's suggestion to check your timing. I believe timing was the exact same reason streetfighter's 2JZ kept overheating when he first got it going. It would start up and run fine so we had plenty of time to hunt down the issue but we never checked the timing; a week of frustration for him as he finished up other parts and he finally got Justin Ninny(?) to recheck the base tune and found the timing was all out of wack. The overheating stopped and he picked up over 100HP or so before they really got to work on the tuning. __________________ '77 280Z 2JZ-GTE in Progresso '03 SV650S

August 31st, 2009, 01:12 PM	#224
mike321go HybridZ Supporter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: mill valley, CA Posts: 294	oh ya everything was set when the motor was on the engine stand. top dead center ect... the motor ran great a few weeks ago but now is stumbles and dies after it starts. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2559525 www.bertollis.com www.myspace.com/mikegtech

August 31st, 2009, 01:17 PM	#225
stony RB Moderator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse Utah Posts: 3,325	Is it still pump out black smoke? Have you tried to lean it out and it dosnt work?? if so you may have an injector problem. As for timing PUT A TIMING GUN ON IT and check it. check your cam sprockets is you have them they are know for becoming loose and fully retarding or advancing cant remember which. \ Again i would recommend taking back to another shop that can get a base tune done for you. it will be cheaper in the end especially if it has issues. __________________ Unnatural Aspiration....turbo lag was invented to give V-8s a chance RB26DETT, T88-34D, 30 PSI, full tune JUN head, 280 Cams W/ 10.30 lift, 1.2mm cometic Metal head gasket, custom intercooler, HKS Fcon V Pro engine management, 2 speed powerglide, Fully built Dana rearend, Ladder bar suspension, Best 1/4 to date 9.10 @ 147mph 4 link car in the chassis shop now more updates soon http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ompilation.flv

September 2nd, 2009, 08:15 AM	#226
Meph Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Barrie ON Posts: 61	fuel pump/ lack of fuel could would be a reason for that to happen too. Check your lines, make sure there isnt a pinch, check your filter. You chould pull your return line off and put it over the filler on the cell and cycle the fuel pump, make sure its feed fuel nice. Injectors could be clogged, they have a little screen filter on them too if you take them off and clear it out. __________________

September 4th, 2009, 11:12 AM	#227
mike321go HybridZ Supporter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: mill valley, CA Posts: 294	i met a guy at the race track with an 800hp lexus sc300 with a turbo 2j in it. he is running aem ems and told me what i have to do to get it to idol better...BAM last night i got the car idoling again! i had to change the setting of the idol control valve because the stock settings will not work with my huge intake manifold and throttle body __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2559525 www.bertollis.com www.myspace.com/mikegtech

September 4th, 2009, 12:02 PM	#228
ShaggyZ Terminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 500	That could do it. Congrats! Now get to work, starting with checking the timing. __________________ '77 280Z 2JZ-GTE in Progresso '03 SV650S

September 5th, 2009, 12:13 AM	#229
g00kb0i Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: glendale, ca Posts: 50	that has to be one of the best feelings. figuring out the bug.

September 5th, 2009, 06:13 PM	#230
240Z_478 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sparks,NV Posts: 84	Glad to hear all of the problems are being sorted out. Cant wait to see a video of the car running well. __________________ 1973 240Z - 2JZ-GTE In progress My Build progress http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread...697#post867697

September 5th, 2009, 08:05 PM	#231
stony RB Moderator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse Utah Posts: 3,325	OK now post some video of it running right. is it still overheating? __________________ Unnatural Aspiration....turbo lag was invented to give V-8s a chance RB26DETT, T88-34D, 30 PSI, full tune JUN head, 280 Cams W/ 10.30 lift, 1.2mm cometic Metal head gasket, custom intercooler, HKS Fcon V Pro engine management, 2 speed powerglide, Fully built Dana rearend, Ladder bar suspension, Best 1/4 to date 9.10 @ 147mph 4 link car in the chassis shop now more updates soon http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ompilation.flv

September 7th, 2009, 08:07 PM	#232
mike321go HybridZ Supporter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: mill valley, CA Posts: 294	NO MORE OVERHEATING...... found the problem was my gauge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it wasnt set u right for the toyota temp sensor so it gave a false reading. car runs at idol very nicely we have run it a temp for long periods of time with no hoses failing or oil leaks!!! it revs nicley until 2500rpms it feels like hit hits a rev limiter. but since we can heat up the motor not we found a intake leak behnf the trottlebody that i need to fix! __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2559525 www.bertollis.com www.myspace.com/mikegtech

September 7th, 2009, 08:44 PM	#233
Vette Powered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 87	Congrats! That's a great feeling. Problem found...

September 7th, 2009, 10:27 PM	#234
stony RB Moderator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse Utah Posts: 3,325	Ok now lets see some video __________________ Unnatural Aspiration....turbo lag was invented to give V-8s a chance RB26DETT, T88-34D, 30 PSI, full tune JUN head, 280 Cams W/ 10.30 lift, 1.2mm cometic Metal head gasket, custom intercooler, HKS Fcon V Pro engine management, 2 speed powerglide, Fully built Dana rearend, Ladder bar suspension, Best 1/4 to date 9.10 @ 147mph 4 link car in the chassis shop now more updates soon http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ompilation.flv

September 8th, 2009, 04:04 PM	#235
mike321go HybridZ Supporter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: mill valley, CA Posts: 294	lol i have to take the intake manifold back off to get the flange resurfaced so the leak stops. or find a nice copper ring to use as a gasket. Yesturday i got a ride in this car tho!!!!!! http://videos.streetfire.net/video/I...1998_72281.htm he came to look at my EMS __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2559525 www.bertollis.com www.myspace.com/mikegtech

September 8th, 2009, 04:14 PM	#236
Phlebmaster Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oregon City Posts: 275 Blog Entries: 2	He can't even keep that thing strait. That's an insane ride for sure! I hope yours is just as insane. __________________ Thanks, Aaron Life is about making dreams come true, stop dreaming and make life happen. MY_PROJECT_THREAD MY_YOUTUBE_VIDEOS To keep an opened mind- speculation is devine. Assumptions always lead to a dead end!

September 8th, 2009, 08:29 PM	#238
stony RB Moderator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse Utah Posts: 3,325	OK not trying to be an ass.... but come on throwin the chute on the street???? __________________ Unnatural Aspiration....turbo lag was invented to give V-8s a chance RB26DETT, T88-34D, 30 PSI, full tune JUN head, 280 Cams W/ 10.30 lift, 1.2mm cometic Metal head gasket, custom intercooler, HKS Fcon V Pro engine management, 2 speed powerglide, Fully built Dana rearend, Ladder bar suspension, Best 1/4 to date 9.10 @ 147mph 4 link car in the chassis shop now more updates soon http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ompilation.flv

September 8th, 2009, 08:48 PM	#240
stony RB Moderator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse Utah Posts: 3,325	That video is actually kinda old. he caught a rash of crap on yellowbullet for that. yea its fast but... REALLY!!!! on the street. __________________ Unnatural Aspiration....turbo lag was invented to give V-8s a chance RB26DETT, T88-34D, 30 PSI, full tune JUN head, 280 Cams W/ 10.30 lift, 1.2mm cometic Metal head gasket, custom intercooler, HKS Fcon V Pro engine management, 2 speed powerglide, Fully built Dana rearend, Ladder bar suspension, Best 1/4 to date 9.10 @ 147mph 4 link car in the chassis shop now more updates soon http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ompilation.flv

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