Techno Toy Tuning Rear Lower Control Arms now Available!

[Gabriel Tyler]

JustinOlson: We used the gussets to add in the triangulation and strengthen the lower control arms. We've got a ton of guys running cars in rally, so we try to build all our parts strong enough to handle the abuse. Anyone with our TC Rods can attest to this.

You guys asking about the LT-1 swap, if you need something custom, just let us know. It's very possible we can do a bit of re-design work to get the job done.

[240Z2NV]

Going to chime in...
First, "Timing Is EVERYTHING". I would have jumped on these in a heartbeat, had I not already sourced mine.

Second, I have purchased many items from TTT, as well as had them section my struts. FIRST CLASS, Grade AAA, Top Of The Heap.

I wouldn't blink an eye at purchasing ANYTHING from Gabriel. His products are thoroughly engineered, and well-made, and VERY fairly priced.

Above all else, the Customer Service is beyond excellent...which is, sadly, very RARE these days.

[Armand]

Any lighter than stock LCA's?

[fentin_fury]

my $0.02 on TTT.....

Bought the Tension compression rods - one bound up and was unadjustable. TTT replaced it no questions asked - i shipped them the broken piece back.

Once i have more budget i will be buying these LCL.

Q

[Gabriel Tyler]

Armand: These are just about the same weight as the factory units, if not half a pound heavier. We build for strength not for lightness. You guys are pushing envelope on horsepower, so we have to build with that in mind.

Thank you for the support, guys! It is good to hear our customer service is appreciated!

[Z-Gad]

Just saw this thread..
I have the TTT rear end setup in the car and the only thing I feel I am missing is rear ALCA's...
Once I get a couple of other things set aside, I will be ordering a pair Gabriel.
Thanks for supporting this nitch market of ours!!
Mike

[rsicard]

This gets back to the "A" design LCA versus the "H" design. The "A" design takes all the compression (bumps in the road) onto ONE heim joint. The "H" design distributes the compressive load by TWO heim joints aka twice as strong.

[rsicard]

Oh. Additionally the "A" design has a torsional load on the front heim joint as it must take up all the compressive load exerted by the strut.

[JMortensen]

Originally Posted by rsicard

Oh. Additionally the "A" design has a torsional load on the front heim joint as it must take up all the compressive load exerted by the strut.

The only way to put a torsional load on a heims joint is to exceed it's angular capacity, to bottom the spindle pin out on the race of the rod end. You're right that there is a torsional load on the STRUT, but it is the STRUT that takes that load. A single rod end cannot put torsion on the arm so long as it is not bound. More here: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=129154

[rsicard]

The force from going over a bump is transmitted to the strut and from the strut to the Forward heim joint which has the mass of the LCA to contend with. This puts a shear load on the strut pin, heim joint and strut that contains the pin/bolt. Yes the strut takes up the MAJORITY of the compressive load when going over a bump in the road. Yet there still is the shear load taken up by ONLY ONE heim joint with the "A" type design Rear LCA. That is what I was concerned with in the design of the "A" type design LCA i.e. it is not a FAIL SAFE design.

[JMortensen]

Define "fail safe". I'm not following you there.

[rsicard]

If one fails there is another to take up the load ala FAA Part 25 aircraft requirements. With the "H" design Rear LCA if one breaks there is another to assume the load.

[JMortensen]

Not really. If one of your H arm rod ends fails, the wheel goes any which direction. It's bad news. If the rod end on the A arm fails, same thing. Presumably the toe link would try to hang on, but the wheel would go any which direction also. I think what you are looking for is something where the rod end can fail and the suspension is relatively contained. Neither option does that. There were better pics on this thread that aren't available anymore http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=123263, but suffice it to say that if a rod end fails in either instance there's going to be some staining of underwear.

[Gabriel Tyler]

That's why we use rod ends with a 3/4" shank and a 5/8" bore with a 44,000lb tensile strength We use these same rod ends on all our suspension parts and they don't fail us even when we put a car into a concrete barrier!

[Z-Gad]

Email sent, I need a pair
Mike

[fentin_fury]

Originally Posted by Gabriel Tyler

We use these same rod ends on all our suspension parts and they don't fail us even when we put a car into a concrete barrier!

I try to avoid the walls.

Q

[Z-Gad]

Payment sent... Let's see how these do in a straight line

[zilvia_gt]

When will these be available on the website as I plan on ordering some of your other products as well?

[junglist]

Originally Posted by zilvia_gt

When will these be available on the website as I plan on ordering some of your other products as well?

He has them listed on ebay for sale.

[nazgule6]

hey guys these LCA's look very nice and im very intrested...i dont do much racing just daily driving and car shows but i would love to put these on my z it would look alsome...so my question is after i bolt these on do i have to adjust them to my likeing/setup or do them come already adjusted for stock lca's....also the guys that already purchased these...how are they?...they do they ride compare to stock LCA'S...are they easy to install/adjust....remeber i dont race so i won't be trying to kill them..but i would prefer and like them to ride like stock lCA'S...let me know
thanks..