Supra 2JZ-GTE swap into 240Z (pics) - Page 16

cyrus · March 13th, 2007, 03:40 PM

Shesha,
I don't want to be rude, but you post needs work. Please articulate your thoughts better for clarity.

March 13th, 2007, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyrus

I took it out for a drive for the first time in over a year. With all new rebuilt/modded suspension, cage and sound insulation it sure feels different.

Roll out

ihate to spam this thread, but that car is gorgeous. you live right down the street from me, and everytime i see the car, i wantit. /uselesscomment.

March 14th, 2007, 07:36 AM

hey cyrus do u HAVE ANY INFO ON HOW IS the supra auto transmission HARNESS is conected IS IT TO the speedometer sensor or it has a stand alone programed trany ecu. and by the way this is the picture of my friend 280z powerd by 2jz.
http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940
http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940
http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940
http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940

http://forums.hybridz.org/pub2.brave...rnum=134101940

cyrus · March 19th, 2007, 03:04 PM

I have a manual, so no luck. Best to get the shop wiring manual and trace those wires.

JustinOlson · March 19th, 2007, 03:28 PM

Are the wheels you are using +24offset? What hubs and spacers are you using? Did you have to run 8" springs out back?

Justin

J. Soileau RB26zcar · March 19th, 2007, 05:16 PM

What the heck happened to his doors....? Did he have them open while backing up, and they got caught against a wall or something??

Quote:

Originally Posted by shesha

hey cyrus do u HAVE ANY INFO ON HOW IS the supra auto transmission HARNESS is conected IS IT TO the speedometer sensor or it has a stand alone programed trany ecu. and by the way this is the picture of my friend 280z powerd by 2jz.
http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940
http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940
http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940
http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940

http://forums.hybridz.org/pub2.brave...rnum=134101940

March 19th, 2007, 05:31 PM

That would be like the only acceptable reason

ShaggyZ · March 21st, 2007, 04:37 PM

I think it's a shot from the new Transformers movie... mid-transformation.

"Robots in disguise!"

March 22nd, 2007, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Soileau RB26zcar

What the heck happened to his doors....? Did he have them open while backing up, and they got caught against a wall or something??

Drive this car and you will cry like a baby win the boost hit you. and you going to start looking for an exit.

240Z_Master · March 26th, 2007, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unbreakable

um ok instead of you guys blowin off steam about lag and what not ( and by the way if you properly tune 900 whp the car will be responsive with no lag i.e. one fast mutha of a car ) now that i got that off my chest i need to ask you guys a serious question. do any of you guys know the install steps to putting a 2jz into a 240z , what you would need if you had a complete donor mk4 and would everything clear and what fabrication would you have to do , but if you guru's dont know i guess ill try some where else. sorry for being rude its just that i just sorted through 11 pages of non sense and nothing i didnt already understand. and if you guys are in the eastern p.a. area i have a 1990 mk3 toyota supra n/a for 3 grand for sale just to let you know. thanks

So your first post on this site... you whine, then you admit you're rude, then you spam info about a car for sale?

Hmm... tough call

March 26th, 2007, 09:45 PM

lol quac lol

cyrus · March 30th, 2007, 10:16 AM

Updates: I have done repeat LM-1 wide band runs to tune with the SAFC-2 and have brought the AFR from 9.1 to 11.5 in a few places. I am shooting for 500 HP at the crank. I notice the car has a more poop at redline as I keep accidentally hitting it in first. In the past it would start to wane due to the richness. The car will launch nicely from 5000 RPM which feel like real scary until you get used to it. I am strugging with one issue though. The car pulls straight and nice until 100 at which I lift and gently apply the brakes. The car has a floating feel (darting) until the speed comes down to 80 or so. Any thought on stability.

wheelman · March 30th, 2007, 10:49 AM

Cyrus,
Have you added any aero items to the body work?
Air Dam, rear spoiler, wing, whale tail, etc.

If not you're experiencing the natural lift the Z has at speed.

If you have added aero items then I'm not sure what would cause the floaty feeling, you didn't add power steering did you?
What tires are you running and have you had it aligned?

Wheelman

Z-Gad · March 30th, 2007, 12:38 PM

Perhaps worn tie rod ends and/or ball joints...
If it is under braking, maybe the tension compression rod bushings..

cyrus · March 30th, 2007, 03:13 PM

All new suspension + alignment. I think is is do to the 17x9" rims on the front. Without power steering the car follows all ruts in the road.

ARZ_ · April 18th, 2007, 02:52 PM

I experienced the exact same thing driving Cliftons car at the drag strip. On the street and at freeway speeds above 80 it feels very solidly planted, but at the dragstrip felt real sketchy until it was below 80. Hell on the trip up to speed (right at 80+ the tires started to break loose all the way thru 3rd gear) the car felt so sketchy Im glad Clifton gave me the heads up.

I havent drag raced my own car (at the dragstrip) yet but it sure felt a little more solid and planted and the like, while doing similarly accelerated driving (Represenative of a Drag race run).

I think that might be the case, under good rear traction and the conditions that exist at a dragstrip, this might just be how the old school 240 chassis/body work feels at speed.

Z-Gad · April 18th, 2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2fiddyz

I experienced the exact same thing driving Cliftons car at the drag strip. On the street and at freeway speeds above 80 it feels very solidly planted, but at the dragstrip felt real sketchy until it was below 80. Hell on the trip up to speed (right at 80+ the tires started to break loose all the way thru 3rd gear) the car felt so sketchy Im glad Clifton gave me the heads up.

I havent drag raced my own car (at the dragstrip) yet but it sure felt a little more solid and planted and the like, while doing similarly accelerated driving (Represenative of a Drag race run).

I think that might be the case, under good rear traction and the conditions that exist at a dragstrip, this might just be how the old school 240 chassis/body work feels at speed.

I beg to differ, as my 240 tracks straight as an arrow at speed on the dragstrip. That was both when I ran radials at the track and now with the bias plys.
I have experienced a wider tire up front (245+) grabbing the ruts in the road and giving a bit of a twitch from side to side.

big B · April 18th, 2007, 08:42 PM

does anyone know if there is an adaptor or bellhousing to mount a tremec t56 or tko600 to a 2jz if so who makes this very interested

cyrus · April 19th, 2007, 02:40 PM

I believe not, because the Getrag 6 spd that is come with is awesome. There would be be no significant benefits to a T56.

big B · April 19th, 2007, 04:22 PM

I don't have the turbo 2jz but i have several 2jzge's and the getrag is a nice tranny just very rare and expensive compared to the tremec units. So the benefits would be price, availability, and future rebuilds would be cheaper.

Rhnmsf · April 20th, 2007, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shesha

Drive this car and you will cry like a baby win the boost hit you. and you going to start looking for an exit.

in my opinion lambo doors belong on 2 kinds of cars......lambo's and ricer's........

Sparks280zt · April 20th, 2007, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhnmsf

in my opinion lambo doors belong on 2 kinds of cars......lambo's and ricer's........

Who cares about his doors? Facts are he put a 2jz in a s130, possibly the first to do that. Now back to the topic....

ARZ_ · May 31st, 2007, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparks280zt

Who cares about his doors? Facts are he put a 2jz in a s130, possibly the first to do that. Now back to the topic....

Yea and hopefully the last!!! Personally I think the entire suspension on the s130 was a step backwards from the s30 chassis. Its heavier, it has worse suspension, and its uglier. Oh wait it had better A/C, (if you didn't get the automatic climate control) theres one plus to using that chassis.

BTW shesha thats not a Z its a ZX, Im surprised no one has pointed that out yet, theres a huge difference between the 2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-gad

I beg to differ, as my 240 tracks straight as an arrow at speed on the dragstrip. That was both when I ran radials at the track and now with the bias plys.
I have experienced a wider tire up front (245+) grabbing the ruts in the road and giving a bit of a twitch from side to side.

Thats exactly the case, Clifton and I both have 245 40 17's on 8 inch wheels up front. I didn't get enough runs to check it out but that might be exactly what I was experiencing.

BLKMGK · June 1st, 2007, 04:43 PM

Well, still fighting with the insurance company on my car - Sears is dragging their feet as hard as they can. Something about 60K worth of parts and their 16K "bluebook" figure not jiving is tough for them to understand <ahem> Lawyer slowly beating them down I think. Scottie has sent me pics and vids of Zgads car flying - I *so* want to wrench on another 2JZ!

Cyrus, I'd appreciate pics of the shifter on your car inside, where did it come out? I have a JDM importer right around the corner and while I'm currently poor fighting for my Supra I might be tempted to plan something if I can get the 6spd in there. Zgad, any chance of getting a mount like your's duped?

Z-Gad · June 1st, 2007, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLKMGK

Zgad, any chance of getting a mount like your's duped?

I have had a few people ask about my engine cradle...
I have asked Mark at www.Mazworx.com to duplicate it, but since it is welded to the frame rails, he said that in order to get it to fit exact, he'd have to weld it in the car. Basically he'd need to build it there.
Mike

P.S. Good luck with the suit. It has been a LONG time.

March 30th, 2007, 10:49 AM	#388
wheelman Fastest Jack-Stands Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,034	Cyrus, Have you added any aero items to the body work? Air Dam, rear spoiler, wing, whale tail, etc. If not you're experiencing the natural lift the Z has at speed. If you have added aero items then I'm not sure what would cause the floaty feeling, you didn't add power steering did you? What tires are you running and have you had it aligned? Wheelman __________________ Wheelman 73 240Z, LT1, LT4 Hot cam, T-5, R200, 300ZX CV Half-Shafts, Subaru Forester Power Steering 92 240SX, basically stock - for now

March 30th, 2007, 12:38 PM	#389
Z-Gad Ludicrous speed, GO! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Waynesboro, PA Posts: 1,399	Perhaps worn tie rod ends and/or ball joints... If it is under braking, maybe the tension compression rod bushings.. __________________ 71 240z 2JZGTE TH400, 76mm turbo, 3.36 R200 rearend - 8.915 @ 153.60 TechnoToyTuning 2.94 geared R230 rearend - 9.038 @ 152.14 (so far) http://album.hybridz.org/showgallery...00&ppuser=7981 http://videos.streetfire.net/video/a...e90005d70d.htm 02 IS300 Sportcross (daily) 07 Solar Orange 350Z Roadster (wife's car) 03 Ford Excursio-saurus 4x4 Diesel A really bad want is a justifiable need ...

June 1st, 2007, 04:43 PM	#399
BLKMGK Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: VA Posts: 3,403	Well, still fighting with the insurance company on my car - Sears is dragging their feet as hard as they can. Something about 60K worth of parts and their 16K "bluebook" figure not jiving is tough for them to understand <ahem> Lawyer slowly beating them down I think. Scottie has sent me pics and vids of Zgads car flying - I so want to wrench on another 2JZ! Cyrus, I'd appreciate pics of the shifter on your car inside, where did it come out? I have a JDM importer right around the corner and while I'm currently poor fighting for my Supra I might be tempted to plan something if I can get the 6spd in there. Zgad, any chance of getting a mount like your's duped? __________________ http://blkmgk.com

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March 13th, 2007, 03:40 PM	#376
cyrus Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Jose Posts: 561	Shesha, I don't want to be rude, but you post needs work. Please articulate your thoughts better for clarity.

March 14th, 2007, 07:36 AM	#378
shesha Guest Posts: n/a	hey cyrus do u HAVE ANY INFO ON HOW IS the supra auto transmission HARNESS is conected IS IT TO the speedometer sensor or it has a stand alone programed trany ecu. and by the way this is the picture of my friend 280z powerd by 2jz. http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940 http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940 http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940 http://pub2.bravenet.com/photocenter...rnum=134101940 http://forums.hybridz.org/pub2.brave...rnum=134101940

March 19th, 2007, 03:04 PM	#379
cyrus Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Jose Posts: 561	I have a manual, so no luck. Best to get the shop wiring manual and trace those wires.

March 19th, 2007, 03:28 PM	#380
JustinOlson Slithering snake Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,648	Are the wheels you are using +24offset? What hubs and spacers are you using? Did you have to run 8" springs out back? Justin

March 19th, 2007, 05:31 PM	#382
TeamNissan Guest Posts: n/a	That would be like the only acceptable reason

March 21st, 2007, 04:37 PM	#383
ShaggyZ Terminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 521	I think it's a shot from the new Transformers movie... mid-transformation. "Robots in disguise!"

March 26th, 2007, 09:45 PM	#386
TeamNissan Guest Posts: n/a	lol quac lol

March 30th, 2007, 10:16 AM	#387
cyrus Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Jose Posts: 561	Updates: I have done repeat LM-1 wide band runs to tune with the SAFC-2 and have brought the AFR from 9.1 to 11.5 in a few places. I am shooting for 500 HP at the crank. I notice the car has a more poop at redline as I keep accidentally hitting it in first. In the past it would start to wane due to the richness. The car will launch nicely from 5000 RPM which feel like real scary until you get used to it. I am strugging with one issue though. The car pulls straight and nice until 100 at which I lift and gently apply the brakes. The car has a floating feel (darting) until the speed comes down to 80 or so. Any thought on stability.

March 30th, 2007, 03:13 PM	#390
cyrus Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Jose Posts: 561	All new suspension + alignment. I think is is do to the 17x9" rims on the front. Without power steering the car follows all ruts in the road.

April 18th, 2007, 02:52 PM	#391
ARZ_ Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 151	I experienced the exact same thing driving Cliftons car at the drag strip. On the street and at freeway speeds above 80 it feels very solidly planted, but at the dragstrip felt real sketchy until it was below 80. Hell on the trip up to speed (right at 80+ the tires started to break loose all the way thru 3rd gear) the car felt so sketchy Im glad Clifton gave me the heads up. I havent drag raced my own car (at the dragstrip) yet but it sure felt a little more solid and planted and the like, while doing similarly accelerated driving (Represenative of a Drag race run). I think that might be the case, under good rear traction and the conditions that exist at a dragstrip, this might just be how the old school 240 chassis/body work feels at speed.

April 18th, 2007, 08:42 PM	#393
big B Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: tennessee Posts: 86	does anyone know if there is an adaptor or bellhousing to mount a tremec t56 or tko600 to a 2jz if so who makes this very interested

April 19th, 2007, 02:40 PM	#394
cyrus Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Jose Posts: 561	I believe not, because the Getrag 6 spd that is come with is awesome. There would be be no significant benefits to a T56.

April 19th, 2007, 04:22 PM	#395
big B Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: tennessee Posts: 86	I don't have the turbo 2jz but i have several 2jzge's and the getrag is a nice tranny just very rare and expensive compared to the tremec units. So the benefits would be price, availability, and future rebuilds would be cheaper.