I think what I was trying to point out is it is impossible to keep this site for 'experienced z owners'. If you wanted that you should have kept it between the few worthy 'overseer's'. Complaining that you have to deal/answer/smack a 'little nipper' is silly. It is like spraying for mosquitoes, you may get a lot, never get them all. It only takes a few to be a pain in the ass(if you let them bother you). I choose to ignore and move on. Not much of the 'grumpy oldtimer' type. Is it impossible to 'teach' a student without corporal punishment?
Tony, do you ever make it way over here to the N'east for any events?