egzlilgituarboy9 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 OK So here is my issue guys. Finally got my car started after 3 years of intense work motor is a Gen 1 SBC 383 Trans is out of a 1994 Trans am and had been upgraded to stage 2. At First Start herd a clunking noise thought it was motor at first found out the be the clutch hitting something inside the bell housing pulled the slave cylinder to see if i was able to see if i was able to see what it was hitting, couldn't see much besides that the paint on the outer edge of the pressure plate was scratched off and a small groove in it. So I drove it around the block to see how it felt. By the time I got home when I press the clutch in it would not disengage the clutch. When car is off goes into all the gears fine but when started does not go into gear now. The slave cylinder is still opening the clutch I am sure of that, pedal still has pressure and i can watch it open it from the underside of the car. Going to end up pulling the trans in the next few days but just want to see if any of you guys have any idea whats going on. Hopefully that is enough info for you guys please ask me any questions that might help you better diagnose this. Thanks a lot, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egzlilgituarboy9 Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Thinking I might need a bellhousing to transmission spacer?? Anyone else got any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsicard Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just wondering if you have the proper pressure and clutch plate. The T56 behind the SBC Gen 1 engine must have the specific LT-1 pressure and clutch plate that is a pull type pressure plate. Additionally, the flywheel is also specific to the T56 application. What year SBC engine is installed? Which flywheel is being used? Which pressure and clutch plate are being used? Need more data to advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egzlilgituarboy9 Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just wondering if you have the proper pressure and clutch plate. The T56 behind the SBC Gen 1 engine must have the specific LT-1 pressure and clutch plate that is a pull type pressure plate. Additionally, the flywheel is also specific to the T56 application. What year SBC engine is installed? Which flywheel is being used? Which pressure and clutch plate are being used? Need more data to advise. I am using the fidanza 198661 conversion flywheel and centerforce dfx clutch that is a pull type and pre 86 2 piece rms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkEÂ¥ Z Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Any closure on this one guys? I know it's a bit old but I'll be swapping out a 700r4 for a T56 behind a 79-80 SBC this summer. It would be nice to try and a void any pit falls in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egzlilgituarboy9 Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 Pulled it apart to find my pivot balls on the clutch came out of place and were just rolling around inside the pressure plate. The centerforce clutch will not be going back in and fidanza flywheel will be going up for sale. PM me if your interested has 4 miles on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igasem Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I don't have any solutions on this issue, just some questions. I am in the process of getting parts to mate my T56 to my Gen 1 SBC, Are you using a mechanical or hydraulic clutch? Have you found the source of the problem? Which bell housing are you using? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsicard Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Pulled it apart to find my pivot balls on the clutch came out of place and were just rolling around inside the pressure plate. The centerforce clutch will not be going back in and fidanza flywheel will be going up for sale. PM me if your interested has 4 miles on it. Sounds like the pivot ball for the pressure plate disengage lever broke off. Seems all it needs is a replacement pivot ball/shaft. No need to get rid of the fidanza flywheel. The centerforce clutch should also work with the replaced pivot ball/shaft. Just need to remove the transmission from the bell-housing, then bolt it up to the block with the clutch and pressure plate installed, install the disengage arm, adjusting the pivot ball/shaft, for a very small amount of free play between the throw-out bearing and disengage arm. I will be installing this same setup with a Gen 1 engine with a 1 piece rear main bearing. Already have the external hydraulic slave cylinder from McCleod. Going to order a Quicktime 9023 scatter-shield bell-housing and check it for dimensions against the GM cast aluminum bell-housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egzlilgituarboy9 Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 I don't have any solutions on this issue, just some questions. I am in the process of getting parts to mate my T56 to my Gen 1 SBC, Are you using a mechanical or hydraulic clutch? Have you found the source of the problem? Which bell housing are you using? Bell housing is stock. Hydraulic clutch. I believe the problem is in my clutch fork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egzlilgituarboy9 Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Sounds like the pivot ball for the pressure plate disengage lever broke off. Seems all it needs is a replacement pivot ball/shaft. No need to get rid of the fidanza flywheel. The centerforce clutch should also work with the replaced pivot ball/shaft. Just need to remove the transmission from the bell-housing, then bolt it up to the block with the clutch and pressure plate installed, install the disengage arm, adjusting the pivot ball/shaft, for a very small amount of free play between the throw-out bearing and disengage arm. I will be installing this same setup with a Gen 1 engine with a 1 piece rear main bearing. Already have the external hydraulic slave cylinder from McCleod. Going to order a Quicktime 9023 scatter-shield bell-housing and check it for dimensions against the GM cast aluminum bell-housing. Just gonna get the McLeod twin disc already sent back the centerforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorm Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 question, sorry, did you keep any of the stock hyd clutch sysem from the car? or, what year car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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