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Unfortunately I have had a sudden change in my financial situation and I need to abruptly change the direction of my 1983 datsun 280zx build. If I'm to keep my Z it needs to be running by the end of summer. (****Please be patient with me since I haven’t been exposed to the v8 280zx in about 10yrs so I might be a lil rusty.***)

I'm looking to do a lt1or tpi l98, 4l60/700r4 swap into my 280zx running, for reliability, aftermarket support and ease of swap which option and combination is preferable? Considering emissions aren't a issue which headers fit the sbc swapped 280zx best? If I converted to manual steering would this resolve header clearance issues? I head a rumor that the lt1 headers fit best. Which oil pan has the best clearances? I'm looking to use the jtr motor and trans mount. Is there any literature I should read that can make this swap easier?

 

I have 2 spare 4l60 transmissions from v6 fbodys, if I can save $$ on a transmission purchase i'd like to reuse one of these but will theses be adequate to handle the v8 torque. For cooling I have a l28et radiator & 1.9 ford escort wagon electric fan. I'm using the walbro 255lph FP and I have an after market trans cooler. I have three r200ln diffs w/lsd, one has 336 gears, one has 354 and the last has 390. I'll be running aftermarket gauges.

Is there any facebook group for hybridz?
Parts I'm looking for are manual rack & pinion
Any used swap stuff, aftermarket gauges, used headers, z31 300zx driveshaft, z31 4 lug rear suspension.

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The L98 TPI might be the better choice.  The real difficulties will be the TPI and 280ZX wiring and the interfacing of these.  The mechanical stuff is pretty much a no-brainer.  The TPI EFI ECM will need a harness to operate. The 4L60 from the V6 F-bodies may be on the WEAK side.  If you want to be done by the end of summer, you better REALLY HUSTLE or not start at all.

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Yeah I think ill be going with the l98, I'm not super worried about the wiring. I'll be eliminating alot of the emissions, A/C and most other unnecessary features. The car doesnt have to drive by the end of the summer, just need it to start.

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These 2 engines are great for making power. TPI is more of a torque engine and factory they ran out of wind around 4500-5k rpm. The last if the TPI engines where rated around 250hp and around 350 lb ft of torque. I love TPI but it is aging out and becoming harder to find parts for.

Depending on what year Lt-1 you found (Impala, caprice, camaro, corvette) you can range from 260-300 hp. It did not have the torque rating like the TPI, around 300 lb ft. But be careful, if you buy a Lt-1 from some caprices they can be 4.3ltr Lt-1 V8s. The Lt-1 with the hot cam and roller rockers will easily make 400hp. The camaros and corvettes have aluminum heads and the caprice and impalas have steel heads.

The Lt-1 is the cheaper way to build power v. the TPI.

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Id point out that one factor many guys over look that you constantly hear about the "MASSIVE TORQUE"
the most powerful TPI was the 1991 version
"In the 1991 Chevrolet Corvette, the L98 has a compression ratio of 9.5-to-1. Compression ratio lists the difference between the largest capacity of a cylinder and the smallest capacity, as the piston moves from bottom dead center on the crank stroke to top dead center on the crank stroke. In this engine, the mildly high compression ratios (considering the crappy gas available) mean that the engine could produce 245 horsepower at 4,000 rpm and 340 lb.-feet of torque at 3,200 rpm."

the LT4  only made 330hp/340ft lbs of torque
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/c4/1996/lt1lt4.html

both engines are PITIFULLY WEAK compared to what you can build from a basic SBC

yes we are all faced with working with limited budgets, obviously some far more limited than others but getting 450hp and 450ft lbs out of a properly built 383-406 sbc is not an un -obtainable goal

HERES SOME EXAMPLES

 

 

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=3814

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=38

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=10377&p=42862&hilit=215cc+vortec#p42862

http://www.airflowresearch.com/articles/article155/A-P1.html

http://www.airflowresearch.com/articles/article085/A-P1.htm

http://www.airflowresearch.com/articles/article031/A-P1.htm

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=10494

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=430

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=10152

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=7771

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=5078

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1040&p=1943#p1943

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If emissions aren't an issue for you, go conventional SBC hei or MSD ignition with a carb.  Quicker, easier and generally cheaper to setup with decent driveability.  The money you would spend on a coil pack conversion for a LT1 (LTCC, coils, wires, brackets, etc) could be better spent elsewhere. 

 

Changing the plugs, wires and distributor on my LT1 Camaro with full length headers and optispark distributor (which is located on the front of the engine under the waterpump if you didn't know) was a horrible job to do.  I have permanent scars from that job.  It's a job that is better to pay someone to do.  The exact opposite of my Datsun with MSD ignition and carb'd sbc.  Even with headers, it's very easy to get at everything on the Datsun.  

 

LT1 pic below

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I'm doing an LT1 swap soon. It's coming or if my 93 Firebird, honestly the tune up wasn't that bad if you have access to a lift. I did it all myself and didn't have to drop the exhaust or anything. I'm just glad I have scrawny lenky arms. I like the LT1 more than my L98 from my 87 TA, and parts are easier to come by.

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