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#1 z-ya

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 01:50 PM

I've been studying up on air to water intercoolers, and I think they are a great alternative for street cars, and the make for a much cleaner install. I've already done the air to air in the past, so I am looking to try something new.

 

So I have been thinking about how to integrate the A2W IC into an L6 manifold some how. I've attached a photoshopped rendition. Keep in mind the orientation of the IC will probably change to clear the fender well. The TB may also be located under the IC so it is a straight shot from the turbo. I'm looking for a clean install, with minimal plumbing.

 

I've also considered ITBs between the IC and intake. But a single TB would certainly be cheaper and a lot less moving parts.

 

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 03:59 PM

Wasn't there a thread on this about two years ago? I know TonyD chimed in on it. I'll try to dig it up.

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 05:22 PM

I like the idea, I want to do something similar on my setup. 



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 03:43 PM

Upsize the BOV accordingly to accommodate the hot airflow on drop-throttle. No recirc to turbo inlet on that setup.
At least one size larger than venting inter cooled airflow...at least one size larger...
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Posted 14 August 2014 - 05:18 PM

This was the thread I was thinking about. Not exactly what you asked, but may provide ideas.

http://forums.hybrid...cooler-concept/

#6 z-ya

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 05:26 AM

Bumping this. I am starting to think about this again. From what I read there is no issues having the throttlebody upstream of the IC, as long as the IC plumbing is short. I am thinking that I would weld partitions between the runners where the IC meets the intake manifold. I'm thinking that this would simulate longer runners.

 

Ideas, thoughts?


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Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:23 AM

TB before IC? Done all the time on Turbocharged V8 engines. Short run to IC is the key as you mention. Nice design you've made!!

 

Nelson racing engines build a Ton of  BIG HP Turbocharged motors using Air to Water Intercoolers. Have a look at their combination AW Intercooler and Intake manifold combo for LS1 engines:

 

http://www.nelsonrac...l-Injector.html

 

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#8 z-ya

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 06:37 AM

NIce! I'll be making one for sure. 


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 06:51 PM

Jackson Racing did something similar for the B18c.  Supercharger feeds directly into A2W block then down the runners. 

 

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Posted 01 November 2016 - 04:13 AM

That essentially how your new SS Cobalt/mustang/camaro/Corvette/Hellcat cars all work. Supercharger blows directly into the A-W aftercooler and then down a short runner into the cylinder head.

Google laminova intercoolers and you'll see all kinds of designs for different inline 6 BMW intercooler ideas.

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 10:49 AM

What about building a sealed compartment on top of the intake to hold dry ice? I'm not sure how long dry ice would last though. I know it lasts about 24 hours at room temp.
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#12 skirkland1980

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 10:50 AM

And I didn't mean completely sealed by the way. Of course dry ice has to breathe.
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Posted 03 November 2016 - 02:03 PM

Is there something magical about the laminova design? I don't see how its better than a regular Air to water core. I suppose your adding more turbulence. 



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Posted 05 November 2016 - 05:56 AM

I think it's just the surface area and turbulence




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