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The holidays have really been getting in the way of work...Once the new year rolls in, then I'll once again be on a steady work regiment.

 

 

Updates:

 

Received the carbon, made another console. Finally the twill is what I would deem 'acceptable'.

 

Changing the geometry helped enormously. 

 

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First Insert - dusty.

 

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Also, made another set of clamshells, as well as a trimming template to expedite that process a bit. Took only about one hour to trim both clamshell halves. Sure beats four hours.....

 

 

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hoping to have a finished inner flange for the clamshells by Friday.

 

Then I can start making them look pretty.

 

Happy New Year all!

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OMG! That console is beautiful! All my children have left the nest so, first born is out of the question. Could I interest you in another left n%%?

Seriously, do you plan to manufacture for sale? I do not have a console for my 260 build and will require one within the next year or so.

chris

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OMG! That console is beautiful! All my children have left the nest so, first born is out of the question. Could I interest you in another left n%%?

Seriously, do you plan to manufacture for sale? I do not have a console for my 260 build and will require one within the next year or so.

chris

 

Haha, thanks for the ultra kind words. Originally, I was intending on making these only for my personal project. However, since receiving interest from a number of people I have decided to work toward a production run.

 

There's a big difference between making a one off part for yourself, and making them repeatable with the intent to sell. That process takes time.... I don't like to write checks that I can't currently cash.

 

That's where we are currently. I am still working out the details with the pieces. Essentially I have recreated all the shapes, but I still need to engineer them to work.

 

Here's the random update so far.

 

 

I redesigned a new insert plug, because I wasn't thinking and the first one sucked. Haha.

 

If it weren't a blizzard out, I'd probably have that in duratec before the end of the day...Maybe the weather will let up...

 

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Figured out the mounting points for the ashtray. ABS plastic extrusions are bonded to the underside. Threaded screws go into the ABS.

 

Ignore the obviously modified portion of my ashtray. My brake proportioning valve sticks up through my console, so that's why it is cut. (also the main reason I made this console to begin with)

 

(Note: this is the first console I made. This is going to be the prototype that I use in my car. Ignore the known defects in the twill.)

 

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Have tried a couple iterations of how the clamshells will close. I'm still not quite happy with the result so far. It works, but isn't pretty.... so I'll be tweaking that a little bit. We have a new plan.

 

 

 

Random gauge pod. Less progress on this front, because I want to prioritize my time on how the clamshells close, first. Once we have a developed system that we're happy with, the gauge will take no time at all.

 

Regardless, some random pictures. Still shaping it down as small as I can.

 

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Lots of things are still happening.

 

(I also haven't forgotten about you t5 transmission guys. I am tuning up the console plug to start thinking about those required modifications. This stuff, as you're all aware, unfortunately, takes time.)

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Thank you, Gentlemen. I'll keep at it.

 

 

Sprayed a little clear today. Benefits: Added luster, and UV resistance.

 

Changes the piece completely, in my opinion.

 

Some horrible, just sprayed,  low light pictures in my usual fashion. Tomorrow, obviously, when it can be handled, I'll update the pictures accordingly.

 

Ignore the proportioning valve hole, that is specific to my project.

 

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Certainly an improvement. Made the dud console look decent. Nice.

Can't wait to spray something without defects.

 

 

 

 

 

Also got the revised insert plug in Duratec tonight, so I will be making that mold very soon hopefully. Sorry no pictures, was too excited about spraying the console to remember.

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Thanks, the pictures make it look better than it is, in my opinion. This first one is testing a couple different things. Mainly seeing what I can get away with. There's lots of surface imperfections in this one, those will be reduced in the future.

 

Some, moderately, better pictures.

 

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Insert plug. I'll be making that mold tomorrow.

 

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And a sneak peak at a modified top clamshell section plug. The new plan is to have the bottom piece fit into the top piece. So we have (hopefully) modified accordingly :)

 

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And the console plug is tuned up. Ready to seal and frekote.

 

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We are supposed to get a ton of snow tonight, on top of the two solid feet we got yesterday...Hopefully work continues in the morning. I'm the red star.

 

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Fingers crossed it isn't too bad.

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Great work, it's progressing nicely, wow!  

The clear coat really makes the CF pop.  

Thought on the clamshell - does carbon fiber not conduct electricity?  There are a lot of live wires in the combo switch, and the clamshell fits pretty closely to it if I recall correctly.  I'd probably give some thought to insulating that portion of it on the inside, as a "just-in-case" measure.  

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Thanks!

 

 

Great work, it's progressing nicely, wow!  

The clear coat really makes the CF pop.  

Thought on the clamshell - does carbon fiber not conduct electricity?  There are a lot of live wires in the combo switch, and the clamshell fits pretty closely to it if I recall correctly.  I'd probably give some thought to insulating that portion of it on the inside, as a "just-in-case" measure.  

 

Yes, carbon happens to be a pretty decent conductor. However, the various coatings should insulate from any potential problems. That said, I am looking into some added insulation for that exact reason.

 

Excellent point. Thanks for bringing it up. I'm on it.

 

 

 

 

First off, apologies for the lack of updates these last weeks....I have been in New Orleans for the past two weeks for a Sailing Symposium, and I finally got back into town a day ago.

 

I'm now back on track at work..... Here's the progress..

 

-Insert is bonded to the production prototype. I'm happy with the result. Looks like this system is going to work. That's great news!

 

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Prepped for clear.

 

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Whoops....Stray tow bundle....

 

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Clear.

 

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First gen vs second gen.

 

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So yeah....That's the proof of concept prototype v2.0.

 

This means we will be able to go into production starting this next week. Contingent on interest from potential buyers, of course.

 

 

 

 

It takes either myself, or my business partner, the better part of 3 days to complete one console. These are very time consuming.

 

After finally crunching some numbers, we are looking at around $400 shipped for a full on production console.

 

 

I am willing to sell this first prototype for $350 shipped, due to the small imperfections, and being that it's the first. Pm me if you are interested or have any questions.

 

 

Thanks for bearing with me this long. I promise, I haven't flaked yet :)

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^^ Heh. Lets start with making a set of freakin' clamshells that work first, then....maybe...

 

 

 

 

 

Here's my "Project's not dead yet" update.

 

Updates...

 

We have made, I believe, 5 consoles so far... All currently in various stages of assembly. And if you wonder what 'assembly' means, the following pictures should help.

 

 

After a console and an insert are made...

 

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Step 1. Freshly popped. Untrimmed. (Each one looks nicer than the previous, that's a plus.)

 

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Step 2: Trimmed console shell and insert are bonded together using Plexus.

 

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Step 3: Final fair, then clear.

 

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Here you can see the three post production stages. A lot of work..I mean.."love" goes into each one of these.

 

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Also, we would like some feedback. The last console shell we made, as well as the one we are making tomorrow, has this stripe on it. This is to allow us to use two separate pieces, which really improves the uniformity of the twill, and helps reduce 'bridging' (where the fabric doesn't conform 100% to the mold surface) much easier.

 

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The b-side explains the overlaps.

 

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What are your thoughts?

 

Offensive? Deal breaker? Hate it? Like it?

 

Let me know. Thanks.

 

Also, remember, this has yet to cleared. As you can see in the picture it is barely trimmed. Judge the idea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the clamshells...Ugh...the clamshells.... I have been spearheading the console R/D and production, and my business partner has been in charge of the clamshells..We are still working on the design, as we have made several iterations that we were not happy with....So the saga continues...

 

But I figured I'd update and let everyone know that these are still being worked on daily. Here's a picture of our graveyard...

 

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And as always...Thanks for the click.

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