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On a whim (5 days notice), with really no prep or even thought about prepping for an autocross event, my brother talked me into going out with him to a 'local' (2 hour drive) autocross event, pretty much a 'run what you brung' for us and I think I'm hooked .... Which leads me to the question of what class?

 

I don't think the club we were out with has seen too many S30's as there seemed to be some confusion as to what class I would run initially. No ding on them, but because I was a novice, I don't think they put a lot of thought into it either.

 

Anyway, I've searched and searched in the SCCA rulebook and although it's definitely all spelled out, I'm still confused. It seems like I kept bouncing around from class to class due to the mods of the car and just wanted to see if I could get some assistance as to where some of the more experienced guys would put me as far as class goes.

 

I'm pretty much looking to see how far I can go with further modifications since I think I've initially classed myself out of any competitiveness any time soon .. More must be done

 

Here's the mods (77 280z)

Coilovers (sectioned strut housings)

Tokico Illuminas

Weld in camber plates in the front (bolt in rear)

1" front sway bar with mounting point spacers

T3 adjustable LCA's and TC rods

Steel braided brake lines (rest of brakes are bone stock)

17x9 -13 Rota wheels (245/40/17 - Pirelli PZero tires)

Fenders trimmed and flared

RT Style rear diff mount

 

And that's pretty much it for now, the drivetrain is bone stock as well. L28, 5 speed, 3.54 R200

 

I want to continue to do these events and get better and better, but I also want all the help from the car setup I can get. Just want to see where my starting point is so I can see what my limits are.

 

Thanks!!!!!

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With what you have listed you are really looking at a SSM classing.  

 

The weld in camber plates are a big problem in the ST Class and the SP classes, as the center hole in the strut towers can not be modified in any way and weld in plates modify that strut tower pretty heavily.

 

The thing is the no on will really care if you class your car in BSP or STU in local events until you start beating them.  Then you will be pushed into SSM and will need to get yourself a bunch of power...

 

Most regions and competitors won't really care too much until you get fast.  Just let them know and most times everything is cool as long as you are not a A$$hole.

 

Just remember to go out and have fun.

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I don't know what autocross experience you have. I'm assuming very little since you are asking a classing question. If my assumption is correct it doesn't matter where you are classed, you will not be competitive as a driver for at least a year. Go learn and have fun.

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Ok, so from what I've read and what you guys are saying it seems to be confirmed at SSM. Yikes, I've got a lot of practicing coming!

 

John, you are correct .. This was my first time out .. I have zero experience and was totally slow. I was just trying to place the car where it belongs so I know what else I can do without making it worse and placing me in a different class.

 

Thanks everybody! I can't wait to get out again!

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My engine swap puts me in XP, so I am totally non-competitive. But I don't care. Racing is a religion and I already have one, and a wife, and a job, and a couple of kids. Plus, if I make 1 or 2 events a year i'm doing good. Hard to get fast that way. I just put the magnetic numbers on the car and have fun.

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RebekahsZ, I'm with you ... I think I'm pretty much in that same boat indefinitely because of what I'd eventually like to do to the car. Knowing it's SSM for me at the moment at least lets me mentally compete and shoot for some goals

Either way, I'm assuming none of it matters with the big "N" on the door anyway ;)

 

Wolfalp, it was actually THSCC that I was out with at NCCAR this Sunday. It was nice that I got to run in the rain a little too. I'll look into the coastal club as well, I just happen to come across this past event because my brother caught wind of it on facebook or something.

 

John, I know right! Its funny, coming from my last S30 being a SBC swap I never thought the L28 could be THIS fun .. Now I'm looking at ways to keep the L28 .. for now and modding everything I can to help .. Starting with the driver mod ! Thousands in wasted dollars coming soon I'm sure!

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Cutting the bodywork and putting on flares for wheel and tire clearance is ok for BSP but the strut towers put you into SSM.

 

johnc is correct work on driving and getting faster as you are really looking at a year or more to get appreciably faster.  After that you can see how many cubic dollars you have lying around doing nothing to throw at your car...

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The Z is a fun car, so long as you understand in advance that you are wasting money.  If you want to go fast and collect a lot of trophies, look at the last several years' national championship winners and see what they are driving.  Best to start with a winning chassis and try to find a fast stock class.  You will still have to change your religion.

 

The autocross where I had the most fun in recent memory was a Porsche event-I drove by in my truck when I was on the way to the store to buy eggs for my wife.  I asked if I could play and wound up being the second fastest driver (in my truck!).  It was obviously a show mostly attended by guys who wash and wax instead of driving.  But, I had a ball!

Edited by RebekahsZ

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