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#1 turbogrill

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 02:39 PM

Hi,

 

After heavy cornering and low tank I get fuel starvation on my 280zx track car. It's an endurance racer so I need every drop of gas in the tank. I think I have maybe 2-5 gallons left when this happens.

 

I know for BMWs there are kits you can buy that fixes this. Another solution is Fuel cell but that is ~$1000.

 

Is this a common problem? Any solutions for this?

 

Thanks

 

 



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Posted 29 September 2016 - 04:18 PM

It's common for the Z's.  Not sure how bad it is for the ZX's.  Search "surge tank" and/or "swirl pot" on Hybridz.  Use Google and "site:hybridz.org" if the site search engine doesn't find anything.



#3 74_5.0L_Z

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 05:31 PM

I swear by the ATL Black Box fuel sump. It is a gated plastic box that sits inside your fuel cell. The fuel pump is inside the box and is plumbed out through the top of the cell. Gates allow fuel into the box from three sides. I also plumb my fuel return into the top of the box.

The system is so effective that l have completed a track session without any starvation issues and then have the car run out of fuel loading it onto the trailer. Good to the last drop.

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 06:23 PM

Holley hydramat

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 06:36 PM

I would just put a surge tank in. Since the Chump rules don't let you modify stock fuel tanks you can't legally do anything like a Hydramat or a cage.



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Posted 29 September 2016 - 07:01 PM

I have been recently researching fueling options other than the fuel cell route and was in touch with both Holly for the hydromat as mentioned, as well as Aeromotive for their Phantom line. 

https://www.holley.c...ps/parts/12-132

 

The Aeromotive Phantom Flex with dual 340LPH pumps is what I will be going with as I am planning on using 91 premium and E85 and this kit can run multiple in tank pumps to supply enough fuel for E85 and bigger power goals.

https://www.aeromoti...t/phantom-flex/

 

However, as CalZ pointed out this may all be a waste if not permitted by the rules. 


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Posted 29 September 2016 - 07:09 PM

I swear by the ATL Black Box fuel sump. It is a gated plastic box that sits inside your fuel cell. The fuel pump is inside the box and is plumbed out through the top of the cell. Gates allow fuel into the box from three sides. I also plumb my fuel return into the top of the box.

The system is so effective that l have completed a track session without any starvation issues and then have the car run out of fuel loading it onto the trailer. Good to the last drop.

I have also had my eye on this as well since way back when a member made the rings to customize the stock tanks. I still have mine from that original group buy all fresh in cadmium coating. Since deciding on going the "flex fuel" 91- E85 route, I don't think the black box will support the flow for E85 or is compatible with it. Bummer because as you have mentioned, works great for straight fuel. 


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Posted 30 September 2016 - 06:41 AM

There really isn't a way for the ZX without putting in baffles or some type of foam stuff to keep the gas in one area one the tank is low. A surge tank will help, but you can still potentially starve it and still run low. 

 

Is accidentally bashing your tank so the low point is near the pickup allowed?


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