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Which CV kits are best for an R200 240Z?

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11 hours ago, primaz said:

the famous Primadonna Z

 

How did it become "famous"?  I had to Google it and the stories seem to be from somebody talking about their own car.  I'm not sure you're allowed to claim your own fame.

 

Your description of wanting bolt-on only is why I tried to clarify.  That's not what most people here would call best.  They weld on a whim.

 

I guess that you bought the black one?  Or are you Jack?

 

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The use of the word best is actually written into the forum rules, actually qualifies a post for the shed off the bat, but people are being very nice and informative with their responses.

 

Just like your definition of best is quite different, like NewZed says a lot of members on here can weld and use a micrometer so best may be a matter of function rather than ease of assembly. 

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No, I am not Jack but I bought Jack's own car the Black Primadonna Z car and am currently updating it with a lighter body as well as bringing it back to show quality.  That car was in numerous publications such as Z Car Enthusiast and others.  I have never posted any website on the car but I have seen a number of people whom I have no clue whom they are, that have created website stories of the car, etc. which is a little weird but I guess cool?  Jack won Oakland Roadster car show with the black Primadonna and after I bought it I put more money into it and it used to be on the car show circuit for a few years winning most shows.  I have driven it pretty hard over the years so too many chips on the lacquer paint job so now after I finish our other two 240 Z cars will go a bit extreme on the Primadonna Z putting a ton of HP with a RIPS Racing RB Turbo 3.4 to be able to go over 200 MPH as well as be back to an ISCA car show quality car again.

 

NewZed, that link you shared is the white Primadonna with the non boxed rear flares that Mike sold to Hoover Chan whom sold it to a guy in Florida and I guess sold it again. It looks in rather sad shape in those photos as the rear wing is missing a section that makes it complete.  That car was never really a finished car as Mike designed that version with the extended windshield that goes out to the edge of the cowl and never had a finished interior to make it look clean since when you extend the windshield about 1 foot out you then have a bunch of unfinished sections that are now in the interior of the car.  The black Primadonna was Jacks own car which was built a lot better in my opinion and uses the box rear flares so there is no bondo or filler to hold any of the panels on the body as every section bolts in and looks like it could have came that way from a factory.

 

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Getting back to my original post, I was trying to clarify what I was looking for.  While it seems using the term "best" gets everyone emotional?  Sorry for using "best"   All I want is a completely well engineered kit to convert the car from half shafts to CV's that will bolt in.  I commend you folks that are welders but I just want to know which one to purchase that is already engineered to bolt in.  I am converting at least two 240Z in the very near term so I just want to avoid issues and do not want to buy something I regret.  I greatly appreciate the responses that everyone has shared as each one is very informative.  For me I do want to find what will just bolt in that will work well and be reliable.  Both cars are just about complete so I really want to get both of them back on the street soon which is another reason for focusing on a bolt in upgrade to covert to CV's.

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The black one was mentioned in the link, as one of the three.  Three show cars.

 

Should be interesting to see how the pieces hold up to 200 mph.  It's hard to tell how well built the cars really are.  The odd "I'm a 240Z story" seems to have been copied to many sites, like somebody building a brand, but it's hard to read.   I couldn't finish it.  I think that it might have been famous in a small community for a short while.  Good luck with making it a performance car.  

 

The Modern Motorsports package is probably the most effective bolt-in product.  Already tested and proven.  That's what you're paying for, hence the cost.

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1 hour ago, NewZed said:

The black one was mentioned in the link, as one of the three.  Three show cars.

 

Should be interesting to see how the pieces hold up to 200 mph.  It's hard to tell how well built the cars really are.  The odd "I'm a 240Z story" seems to have been copied to many sites, like somebody building a brand, but it's hard to read.   I couldn't finish it.  I think that it might have been famous in a small community for a short while.  Good luck with making it a performance car.  

 

The Modern Motorsports package is probably the most effective bolt-in product.  Already tested and proven.  That's what you're paying for, hence the cost.

 

 

I think you are right the Z Car Garage kit looks like what I will likely buy.  The Primadonna Z body is very stable at high speeds compared to any other Z I have driven.  Most Z cars float and even if you have the power it is not very safe at high speeds but this body is totally a different experience as it is so smooth and stable at high speeds.  The old motor would only propel it to a top end of 165 mph but at that speed you could drive with one hand with barely any force, the car tracked and did not float at all.  I was able to do a two lane turn just about as hard as you could yank the wheel and the car would track easily.  I raced and beat a lot of much faster cars because of how well it handled those higher speeds.  The only problem was my engine was maxed out so I could not go any faster but when a Ferrari tried to keep up they gave up, little did they know they had me on power :)  but when I am done the Primadonna will finally have the needed power to then race other supercars on the street.  I raced the car a lot on the street and the body is well built and rock solid.  After I bought it from Jack I have added a 9 point cage and soon it will have way more performance than it ever had.  I cannot wait to finally have that kind of power...

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J Mortenson, I agree the set up we have is far from perfect, it is a compromise.  It allowed us to build the car and then upgrade, as time went on.  We had the 8.8.  We chose the 280Z outers because we had them, we also had extra struts and we can always go to billet stubs if necessary.  With whopping 205 wide tires though, I doubt we will need it; street car period.  We basically built the entire rear strut from the adjustable control arm to disc brakes to strut top outside of the car and just swapped the whole thing into the car.  If building a turbo LSx, for drag racing the breakage will be just be a matter of when not if.  As to bolts:  Mtnickels still has four bolts, we have four bolts so not a ton of difference in the mounting.  We tried to do everything bolt on without having to go custom, weld this, machine that etc.  PS we built a GTM from Factory Five and used the Porsche stuff on it with an LS and did not have issues.  We were familiar with it and like it.  The other options with different strut mounts, bearings, intrepid hubs,  etc. all have upside and of course the down of cost and complexity.  Great discussions though, from stock to way away from stock.  Richard.   

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