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web page Some new pictures Jag flip top gas cap on Tomahawk. VW headlight ring on Vello Rossa, T nut and stainless steel hex button head to attach body panels . The prongs on the t-nut are removed and a hole is drilled into the sheet metal with the T nut mounted flush and welded in place. Cracked the new convertible top header flange from the mold. Best piece made so far.Amazing luck so far. Should have the top layed up in the mold soon.An oddity but too early to tell for certain but it appears the gel coat does not appear to fully cure if trapped or under masking tape. The masking tape is used to outline the work and keep fiberglass resin or gel coat from adhering to the surface under the masking tape.

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Nate and I layed up the fiberglass in the mold for the new convertible top today.. Should be able to "crack" it loose Friday.We dispensed with the woven cloth and used mat exclusively with a lot of hand cutting and shreading.Also used the gelcoat as a wetting agent on the first couple layers of mat.The gelcoat compacts and lays the fiberglass mat down better and smoother than the initial wetting of resin on the fiberglass mat A down hill slide now. web page

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I wish that I'd known you guys were working on this...I have been so busy with the lawyers that I haven't had time to keep up with the posts.

 

I think we may be able to resolve our problems and get me up and running again on Monday.

 

I have a mold for a hardtop that was made to fit the VR and I have basically been selling them for cost, which is around $300. The top is just a shell to which you have to fit your own seals and latches. If you want to save yourself some trouble and are not too far along to stop before you hurt yourselves, let me know.

 

Direct email is best, as I don't have much time for surfing these days.

 

Also, for those of you wanting some history, Rick Hammond (aka 'Pablo Bondo') used to work for me and did a lot of the prototyping on the original Velo Rossa. Then he went over to the Dark Side and did some work for Dave Epstein at AZ Z. After all the fun he had there, he decided he needed some real brain damage, went into business for himself, and put together the Origin kit.

 

I believe that he had the Origin kit out long before the Z Therapy kit came on the market.

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John .. actually we are having a lot of fun with fiberglass and learning bonk.gif a few things. So far with knowing very little fiberglass fundementals, we have had some good luck. Actually we were scheduled to crack out the first copy from the new top mold today. After we complete the VR top shelter, a top will be made for the Tomahawk.I would like to make a unique dash replacement somewhere between the Tomahawk and GTO dashes..We are also considering ways to molest a 280 ZX or 300ZX with Ferarri appendages.Would not know of a handheld ES MFG chopper gun and about 6 miles of woven roving. BTW Rick Hammond spoke highly of you..

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Finally got around and cracked the first Vello Rossa convertible top out of our mold today. No unpleasant surprises either.Good smooth white gelcoat finish with no aligator wrinkling. I had read that if you applied the fiberglass resin and mat to a wet gelcoat the alligator wrinkling would occur. In my experiece this is not true but that acetone contact with gelcoat causes the wrinkling of the gelcoat.We used the gelcoat to wet in the first couple layers of shreaded fiberglass mat which really packs the glass fibers down onto the gelcoat with no hint of air bubbles.After two layers of gelcoat on the shreaded mat, we dished out the resin with more fiber onto the fully packed gel coat saturated fibers..We are patiently fitting the first copy of the Origin convertible top to the Vello Rossa body. Will get some pictures up because the trial fit reveals a very pleasing top addition to the VR body.We decided to add a small overlay on the top to cover the windshield gasket which will provide another weather seal to the covertible top in addition to a seal between the two flanges of the top and windshield . There is a gap about one inch across from the bottom of the convertible top to the rear deck of the VR.We had earlier made a flange for this "gapping" event that follows the exact contour of the VR rear deck We originally considered providing an angled contour to the base of the convertible top to cover the gap but will go with a flat lip from the bottom edge of the top to cover the gap onto the prefinished flange which will eventually become part of the convertible top.We have the windshield header flange fitted to the now slightly trimmed outside corners of the unattached new convertible top flange. We will glass in the outside corners of the convertible top flange for a closer marriage to the windshield flange. We will obtain the side window gaskets from a 80's Toyota Celica and then fit them and fiberglass strips to the side window areas of the top. Un-believable, but the new parts are coming out of the molds better each time.For two guys that have not a clue to what we are doing our luck is still running strong on this enterprise.

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If John Washington gets his molds back, what I would suggest is obtaining the Vello Rossa convertible top from him for $300.00 in addition to also obtaining the Vello Rossa separate fiberglass windshield flange which would leave only the convertible flange for the rear deck copied from your vehicle to be adapted permanently to the VR convertible top...... BTW.. the total center length of the "prototype" convertible top from the windshield rubber gasket to the rear deck covering the passenger compartment is approximately 43 inches including the 1 inch gap.I would assume John Washington's convertible top for the VR would be in the neighborhood of 43 inches and the Origin top slightly shorter but both in the same shape style.The VR top would also have slightly more height at the rear deck flange to work from (about an inch more than the Origin convertible top). The top has more than adequete headroom.

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Tomahawk Z - I purchased a Velarosa hardtop and a

hardtop for a convertible "z" from John Washington. He told me they were not finished and

they were not. We've been working on them for several months. The top for the Jim Cook racing kit is finished and the convertible soft top is, too. (the frame and the top folds up and fits in the trunk)

 

The lines of the hardtop, which look like the one in your pictures, lacks something to be desired, but we are going to alter it, via changing the rear window to change the shape of the top. The Velarosa top now looks great and I am in the process of making a mold for the rear glass or backlight, and will fabricate my own rear glass.

This top is longer from the sideglass to the back of the top, giving the car a much sleeker appearance, and not so bluntly chopped off as the

other top on the Jim Cook racing kit.

 

I'll be glad to send you some pictures as soon as my friend feels a little better.

 

trickz - Ain't no 6 bangers here - we're packing 8!!

 

'72 240 327 4-speed flared and dropped

'78 280 400 350 turbo Velarosa

'73 914 283 5-speed flared and dropped

'87 944 LT-1 6-speed

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I would be glad to recieve your pictures of the modified top.I did not understand your reference to the Jim Cook Racing Kit. Did Jim Cook offer a convertible Kit??

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Guest Drewz

DITTO THAT??? John if the hardtop is available from you or the mold I would be interested for sure. If it works either way for you. hail.gifhail.gif

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I got some of the molds back today and hope to have full control of the rest tomorrow. I actually laid eyes on those two top molds, so I know they are still there.

 

As TrickZ says, they are rough and require finishing, seals, and latches. Definitely a do-it-yourself proposition. Not trying to sell them short, but that's why I'm only selling them for my cost...that and the desire to support the customer best I can, until I can put together a nice top for which I can charge a lot:)

 

TrickZ, I'd love to see photos of what you've done. I'm sorry but I don't remember you...too much brain damage over the last year and maybe I'm just getting old. Anyway, when I get the business back to the point that I'm can eat something more than peanut butter and Ramen noodles, I hope to put some time into documenting customer cars and making the information available on the website.

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DCP_3284.jpg

 

Example of New 4 piece removable solid prototype top now being produced for Tomahawk Z Kit. Larger View

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I reviewed this thread today after several contacted me about assorted news contained herein.

 

You go for it Tomahawk. I've always wanted to get some hands-on fiberglass experience myself, but neighbors here would go balistic if they ever got a wiff of the fumes. Nevertheless, I am looking for a clandestine solution because, like you, I am quite curious about the process and it's creative potential related to some projects I have in mind.

 

Seeing that you've put so much work into these projects and many have requested to see your progress, it might be possible for me to work with you to build up an illustrated project-in-progress gallery for you at ZPARTS.COM, but I must caution that I am badly over extended time wise and updates might not be as quick as hoped for. Let me know if you are interested and I will give you some photo pointers for illustrating your project at it's best it will make everything "pop".

 

Welcome back to the Kit building world, John. You've been sorely missed during your brief absense. I am still interested in photo documenting interesting examples of your VR kits running aroung my area (SF-NorCal) if you can ever hook me up with the owners of the best examples. Harley mentioned a Guy in Davis, I believe, but that's all I know of. So far, all I have is that modestly finished Red one that you baby sat for the owner at the NCKCC Berkeley Marina show back in 1998?

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Eric, it is rather amazing to spread wet gelcoat paint onto the same cured gelcoat paint in a mold with the expectation that the mold gelcoat and the copy gelcoat and fiberglass when cured will separate with only an almost invisible layer of wax and parting film between the seperate coats of paint. I always wanted to do some fiberglass work and after reading Lone's experience with fiberglass which led me to Terry Oxendale's amazing work. Nezzie 76 and I decided to try it by starting out small. I would be interested in your advice on picture taking but we are fairly camera poor around here. The fellows doing the 300 ZX V8 conversion have a $60.00 Radio Shack camera that takes fair pictures of their work. Nate's borrowed digital does not take much better than my point and shoot 35mm Olympus

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Larry, if or when you get the notion to one-up your own reservations about your present photo potential for the sake of all of us wanting to see more details of your project, let me know and i'll show you how to pull a rabbit or two out of your hat.

 

If your simple 35 mm Olympus camera has a small built in flash and can focus within 3 feet of an object, the unique Oregonian winter light in your area will take care of the rest. Being a "real" native Oregonian myself, I know of what I speak on this one.

 

btw, is there a photo processing store in your area that will scan your 35mm film and burn them to CD for a modest charge like most COSCO and Longs do? Highly recommended solution over scanning drug store prints or editing images from poor quality digital cameras.

 

Let me know. Glad to help

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Eric, I have the Olympus with the 35-70 mm telephoto equipped with a flash. So you are suggesting processing film on to CD. Yes I am very interested in improving the pictures. The quality has only one way to go and that is UP!

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Eric, I have the Olympus with the 35-70 mm telephoto equipped with a flash. So you are suggesting processing film on to CD. Yes I am very interested in improving the pictures. The quality has only one way to go and that is UP!

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Larry,

 

Yup, main thing is to get your subjects out in the open under an overcast sky for a nice even light to fill in dark shadows so lots of detail can be seen and then hit the subject with a weak fill flash each time to give subject a few high lights that will avoid dullness while opening up dark areas that hold important detail and color.

 

I'll send more details in a private post to give you some tips you can try.

 

Did you get the new Photoshop Street Racer Z Concept design image that I sent out to several Hybridz'ers 2 days ago? Any opinions , pro or con?

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hi guys, been monitoring sitefor a while now but just now getting around to registering. i'm trick z's partner and just recovering from pinched nerve lower back. my expertise although i don't call myself expert, is in modification to early z's. you've heard from trick z on our convertible top quest. we'll be sending some pictures soon. the jim cook racing kit he referred to is a body kit installed on a 260. as far as i know, jim cook never offered a convertible top kit. i have the origin top which i've finished. it came from john washington. if you go on a weekend trip when there may or may not be rain, what do you do with it? i guess you could leave it in the motel room but that's no fun if your on the 3rd or 4th floor. Sooooo, i have built a softtop. with no body or chassis mods, it folds up and stores in the trunk. if any of youse guys are interested, let me know. we'll post our pics as soon as we can. burnout.gif

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I am sure quite a few will be interested in the photos

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Guest Drewz

Tman could you send me some pics of the molds at your conveinience. Since you are a busy man I know this could take a while. Also a pic of a "popped" top from the mold would help as well. Thanks in advance!! burnout.gifburnout.gif

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Zyal8er -

 

I would love to see pics of your soft top design. I had the same thoughts about what to do regarding storing the hard top when you're far from home. I'm a long way off from needing a top on my VR (getting the engine and suspension on would be nice), but I would like to see what you've done.

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