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the Corvette hinges supplied from Blue Ray aka StableWorks fit on the radiator support inside a special definition location in the fiberglass. There is clever simplistic hood adjustment built into the lower part of the hinge bolt that attaches to the radiator support. This is the 2nd bolt closest to the firewall and is fully threaded with one nut on the bottom side tightened against a top side nut with the cap head of the bolt acting as an adustment and stop for the hood. If this explaination is confusing, I can take a picture(s) and place in Yahoo Photos. I have trial fitted the hinges which appear with the adjusting bolt to raise the front of the hood in perfect alignment with the fender line. The frontend is currently off the car

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Ol' Timer - I would appreciate some photos. It appears that the older I get the more I become a visual learner. You seem to be referring to the alignment of the sides of the bonnet (hood). To date I have only been considering issues relating to the front edge alignment, I hadn't even considered the sides.

Regarding the front edge, I have been considering whether to fabricate a framework forward of the radiator (as per a 250 GTO, see photo) so that I could attach the front section to something in addition to the inner guards' lip - it would also enable attachment of the driving lights, ducting for the front brakes, etc. Any thoughts by anyone on the idea?

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Hey Mike. To answer your earlier question about tilt front ends. "Yes." I have an Alpha 1 kit with a one piece tilt front end from VR Engineering (John Washington). And I love it. Not only does it look great and function well. But It has the added benefits you mentioned. I know the 250 never came with a tilt front end, or side pipes for that matter. But remember it never will be a 250. Build it the way you like it. And you'll enjoy it even that much more. Kind Regards.

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Hey Mike, I even took it one step further and modified the hood for clearance of the Edelbrock Pro Flo EFI I installed on my sbc. I had to raise the centre of the hood over 2". Bringing the centre level with the fenders. It looks great and gives the car more presence (sorry no pics). Ordered a set of lexan air scoops from Scorpion and cut them in using a/c quick release fasteners to hold them on. Then modified and cut in KingAir engine cowl latches to hold the bonnet down.

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Guest Mike

^^^ Pics please!! (but be ready for some flaming :rolleyes:) ^^^

 

I may need to raise mine a couple of inches too so I'd really like to see how this looks. I'm thinking very seriously of jamming a 572 stroker under the hood and, even with JTR mounts, the intake/carb/filter combo may not fit.

 

BTW folks... as you know, several 250 GTO's were produced and each one was a bit different, eh? Ferrari "tweaked" their designs to fit their then-current "goals", yes?

 

There can be no such thing as a (Ferrari "kit car" purist), heh, heh :cool:

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Guest Mike

Speaking of mods... bwah-ha-ha-ha [evil hand-wringing]...

 

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QUESTION: The rocker skins were never installed on my Alpha 1. Rather than ordering those... can I just prep the areas and apply fiberglass matte direcly to the metal and blend them with the other panels?

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Guest Mike

Duke... It's just Photoshop. I was playing with simplification of the details and moderate updating. I might even take it a step or two further. I won't mod mine like this but I think it's interesting to explore possibilities. Hmm... maybe I need another GTO to fiddle with...

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Hey Mike...the photo shop looks great. Nice lines. I really like the intake on the hood. Reminds me of the 550 Maranello.

 

 

LOL!!! I Stole it from a Maranello!!!

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Duke... Thanks for the link. You mean the second one from the bottom, right?

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Yeah,.. but Smash found the link, not me... The really sweet gto is eight down on the member page, (shot in the gallery also) nice borranis etc. There's a nice daytona coupe with a Jag v12 as well.

 

As far as your rockers, I'd build a simple curved mold that matches your bodylines out of plywood and plex and then lay the glass up in that with some mold relaese and trim to fit.

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"(rockers)... I'd build a simple curved mold that matches your bodylines out of plywood and plex and then lay the glass up in that with some mold relaese and trim to fit."

 

Thanks DUKE!!

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Hey Mike, the Alpha 1 GTO kit never had rocker skins. They just blended the rocker into the glass. Check the old pictures of the original cars and you will see that it didn't look very good.

 

I bought my rocker skins from Jim Simpson and I think he charged me $75 for them (and probably made them for under $20).

 

You should check with Tom @ Scorpion Z Cars and see how much they are since he has Jim's old molds. They are very simple but not what you would expect. It's hard to describe but they are not rounded like you would think. I would say they look like a [ (channel) only leaned over so the top angle is less than 90 degrees and the bottom angle is greater than 90 degrees. Super simple to make if you knew the angles and width of the three sides.

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What manufacturer makes these valve covers for the SBC?

 

TIA

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QUESTION: The rocker skins were never installed on my Alpha 1. Rather than ordering those... can I just prep the areas and apply fiberglass matte direcly to the metal and blend them with the other panels?

 

My Velo Rossa kit does not come with rocker panels. I was planning on ordering a couple of sheet metal replacement rockers and welding them over the existing rockers to match up with the kits front fenders and rear quarters. Has anyone done it this way? I want to be able to remove the front fender (cheek panel); in other words I don't want to mould it in.

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These are the sill (rocker) covers that came with my kit (Speed thinks it's mainly an Alpha 1 kit). As you can see they are not yet fitted and I must say that I have had trouble picturing in my mind how much they would change the profile of the rockers. My guess is that you fill the ends with body filler, and at a couple of points in between to add support, so that it basically creates the same profile but saves a few kilos of filler.

 

The best approach might be Zerrari's idea of fitting the front and rear panels and then make a sheetmetal cover to suit the dimensions you have, with the lip design that has been mentioned.

 

Change of topic, but very relevant to 250 GTO with twin REAR exhaust. Zerrari - I noticed elsewhere that you have, or intend to make, a front diff mount for twin exhaust. I am about to do the same. I have noticed this done elsewhere on HybridZ but it worried me that the two mounts had (apparently) been cut in a straight cross section in the middle and then welded. I think it might be a bit more structurally sound to stagger the section, the way A-pillars are cut and joined in a 'cut & shut". Any thoughts.

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Guest Sal Versaggi

I have one that I built in 1987 that I drive every once in a while. I use to take it to SPIR in the early '90's and teach in it. I love the car. It has a blueprinted '71 LT1 in it with a T-5 box. I''ve put about 40k miles on it over the years. I'm currently dropping in a R-230 and upgrading the brakes. The body was built by a guy in San Jose. He built 5 of them. Then body #2 was given to a friend of his that built beatiful aluminum body work. He was a KIWI with a first name of Robin. Body # 2 was then used as a buck to build 2 aluminum bodies 240z's. I then acuired body #2 from the guy that built the aluminum versions. I had asked him if he would build one for me and he said he did not want to build any more, so I talked him into selling me body # 2. I believe the molds were then sold to Alpha. I forget if McBurnie acuired them after Alpha or ??????

It was featured in a Kit car magazine in about 1991 +-.

The car is now sitting in my shop in Sonoma...

I think I may still have a note book on it when I originally built it.

Sal Versaggi

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I hate to break it to you Darth...no can get.

 

There was no reference to them at his car domain page.

 

Are they self fab or no longer made or what?

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