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Rota RB/RB-R, 4x114.3, 17", Z-Offset Wheels

What would you prefer?  

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  1. 1. What would you prefer?

    • 17x9.5" -19 On all four corners (as the group buy has been)
      119
    • 17x9" -13 Front and 17x9.5" -19 Rear even if it costs an extra $200 ($950 shipped)
      38
    • 17x9" -13 Front and 17x9.5" -19 Rear at the same price ($750 shipped)
      227


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rudypoochris    10
Yeah i really want to jump in, but i have a 280zx:( My current wheels (15x8 0et) are extremely close to the shock's body on the front wheels, im talking like millimeters. So i dont think the -19et will be enough to clear them on the front. I think i may have to try and get the 17x9" -13s. Im gonna remeasure everything just to make sure. Are there any S130 owners on the list?

 

A 17x9" -13 provides essentially the same back spacing as a 17x9.5" -19 as does a 15x8" 0. They all are the same. The difference will be in whether or not the lips are exactly 1/2" each side.

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rudypoochris    10
I have a 280zx 2+2 sitting on tokico shocks and springs, are you saying that these things will clear? I know its kind of hard to determine without running some kind of trial fits, but i would love to have an answer before making a purchase. Here is a picture of how my car currently looks

 

I do not know what the S130 requires. Depending on how wide the wheel well is, the wheel will probably stick out the sides, maybe not. The wheel might clear the stock suspension, once again I don't know. Might try and search on the forums or just go out and measure to see if you have the clearances below at a radius of 17/2".

 

The 17x9.5" -19 should give approximately:

 

Back Spacing: 4.5"

Front Spacing: 6.0"

 

That is with .5" added to each side for lips.

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rudypoochris    10
Any idea if these wheels are being made as we speak? I really want a set now..

 

They may or may not be. As best I understand the company needs to make a mold first then find space on the production line. I think they are coming from the Phillipeans as well, hence why it takes some time. :)

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rudypoochris    10

Just gave him a call. The deal is that the mold should be made by the end of this month, production to start sometime in January, available in most likely around February/March. They are trying for a 17x9 front mold as well but for those who want that it may be around an additional month. There might be some slight hiccups though as when I called he seemed to have thought the offset was positive 19 and positive 13. I have been explicit in all of my emails that it is a minus offset, even mentioning it in words once or twice. So that might need to be cleared up, but it shouldn't be too big of a deal in the big scope. Does that help with the update. :)

 

After this offset thing gets cleared up I will ask you guys to contact Kim IF you want a 17x9 -13 for the front, which would most likely be more practical in my opinion and would undoubtedly be easier to fit.

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rudypoochris    10
will these wheels fit with say tokico struts and springs with zg flares?

 

In all honesty I could not tell you. I can refer you to the earlier page in this thread where I have pictures of clearances using a mock up wheel and some basic dimensions. The backspacing for these wheels is 4.5" so measure using that distance from the hub. Here is the link to the earlier mention of sizing with pictures: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=123576&page=3

 

Read post #60

 

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For the rest of you. I have been in contact with Rota. They have reopened the factory (was closed for holidays). The -19 vs +19 offset issue has been ironed out and they have let me know that "it will be ready soon". They also will be sending me a sample (I did not request it but am willing to see it naturally) before the -13 are presented as an option, but I have been assured that they are indeed an option. Hopefully the language barrier has made it clear enough that the -13 setup will be on a 9" width wheel, not the 9.5" wheel the -19 setup uses. Other than that I have no concerns. Everything seems to be going well. I shall be ontop of it. :)

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Bowtiez    10
So start cutting the fenders :burnout:

 

I am using ZG Flares and the present set up will handle 245:45:16 race tires on 7 inch rims with 4.5 backspacing and lowered 1 1/2 inches with coil overs without rubbing. Get the tires and wheels mounted before you start cutting. Those flares can be moved up from their normal postion if necessary. Use duct tape to hold in place and mark postions. Finally, use the underneath side of the flare as a template for cutting the front but add at least 1/2 inch that will be hammered or bent up to make the fender stronger. I suggest using a jig saw with a fine metal tooth blade and please take your time. The rear needs to be pushed or hammered up. In Little Rock, AR there is a company that has a tool to enlarge fenders without hurting the paint or cutting so I assume you can find someone to do the job anywhere else. The back quarter panel is a stress area. Put the beer away until after you finished cutting. :burnout:

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CArFAn    10
I kinda wanna measure my 280ZX when i get back over that side of the bridge tonight....

 

I'm barely scrapping by right now as it is, but if I have the money in the near future, of if the price stays that same afterwards and they're actually availible, then I might look into getting a set. I personally think this is a really really good size choice. It's right in the sweet spot for tire selection. Kinda would like to know how much they're gonna weight though.

 

If your wanting to measure if they will fit or not my friend is running 15x10's centerline autodrags all the way around. Here are a few pics.

 

th_15x103.jpgth_15x102.jpgth_15x10.jpg

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rudypoochris    10
so how is this buy going to would love a set of these in black for my Z31

 

its an n/a so the bolt pattern is right

 

 

are they making them in different offsets?

 

Not at the moment. The plan is just for 17x9.5" -19 and probably 17x9" -13. In the future if there is enough support than other offsets could be made... takes 5 group buyers to change an offset or a pattern from what I was told in this specific case.

 

I have just emailed Kim so we should have an update relatively soon.

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rudypoochris    10

I was just alerted by the distributor that center caps ARE included in the wheel purchase. In the past only the rear center caps have fit our vehicles. I suspect that will be the same on this batch. With out the hub dimensions though there is not much I can do about it. Also, in this situation I think it better to simply focus on getting the wheels all squared away anyway.

 

If center caps is shown to be a big deal I am sure I can look into it. In my opinion though we should tackle these wheels first. I wouldn't know where to begin on the center cap fitment.

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rudypoochris    10

Okay. So I let the representative know about the past issues with the center caps not fitting on the fronts and asked if there is an optional larger size or if he could supply some advice. He replied basically saying that "the cap is big enough to cover the hub". Hopefully it is true. If I am supplied with some dimensions I could forward them to him to make it "crystal clear".

 

I'd imagine due to the offset, the front rims would have to be excessively thick in the hub area or something to cover that area. That, or dome shaped caps rather than the traditional snap-in disks. I would opt for coverage if I could, but again, I just want the rims. :wink:

 

I am dubious as well. Just looking at them it is hard to imagine a normal cap that WOULD fit.

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rudypoochris    10

Just a comment about the Toyota 4x4 vented setup, on my past set of Rota 16x8" wheels I DID have clearance issues. The issue spawned from the brake literally being too small, so the caliper was too close to the center of the hub where the meat of the wheel is. I decided to upgrade to 12.2" brakes, alternatively, a small (5-8mm) spacer would have corrected the problem or I could have ground down the extra iron on the calipers, or the aluminum of the wheel.

 

As for these wheels clearing stock springs. I would think that they should. Check post #60 image 4. There was 5/8"-3/4" of clearance between the mock wheel and my coil over spring perch. The coil over perch is ~3.5" OD. If you could measure your spring perch OD that would be appreciated. This setup should clear a 4.75"-5" OD spring perch.

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rudypoochris    10

Okay guys. I know you all are anxious and I know this group buy is behind the time estimate. For those of you who were not sticking with the thread (I don't blame you!), the original time ended up getting pushed back a bit (post #261). Unfortunately there was a misunderstanding about offsets between the Rota rep and myself. The issue was corrected, but the estimated time became February/March. Now the better half of February has passed and you are all wondering what is going on, naturally. Thankfully, there IS good news.

 

I called the representative just now to find out definitively what is going on, as I too seem to be kept in the dark when it comes to email only communication. Basically a pair of samples should be arriving to me this coming Friday. The first is the 17x9.5" -19 and the second is the 17x9" -13. The representative has let me know that both of these sizes will be available. Which is a big plus. I don't think it will cost any more than the original $750. I will do whatever I can to get those wheels on my car the day they arrive and confirm fitment. Once that is done, the rep let me know that they will go right into mass producing them and HOPEFULLY we can all get our set of wheels in a short time.

 

I am terribly sorry for the long wait guys. I really am. I am doing the best I can to stay on top of this and I, as much as all of you, would love to get these wheels ASAP. Back in July of 2007 I never would have thought that this would take so long, but naturally it has. If any of you all would like to back out of the group buy, just let me know and no harsh feelings. I have not, and the rep SHOULD not have (if he did email me ASAP) taken any money from any of you. Once again, I am sorry for the delay and not updating this more frequently, but most of my time spent around this group buy has mainly been waiting and getting the same responses from the representative. Hopefully these wheels will come through quickly from here on out.

 

If any one has any concerns at all, or comments feel free to post them here or contact me directly via the PM system.

 

Thanks!

 

-Chris

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rudypoochris    10

Thanks guys. I will see if I can't order a set of ZG flares tomorrow morning (as per ZG flare suggestion... it really is about time I get these any way...). I am working on getting a junk 255/40/17 for picture and measurement purposes as well.

 

Which source of ZG flares are most of you using or planning on running? I was thinking about using the ones located here:

 

http://classicdatsun.com/

 

I think someone is also working on duplicating a rare wider rear flare as well... :)

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rudypoochris    10

I shall measure everything and most likely photograph with the tape in the pictures. I ordered my set of ZG flares just moments ago. Hopefully they shall make it in time. If not I will proceed with out them, but it would be better to see the relationship between the tire and the fender first hand. I just ordered a used 255/40/17 and a 275/40/17 for measurements. :)

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rudypoochris    10

Me too! I just called the rep again to get information on the shipment. The representative believes the manufacturer sent it out yesterday by air. I doubt it will make it here before this weekend though unfortunately. On the flip side that gives time for the rubber, zg, flares, and the rear control arms to come in so I can get a nice mounted setup. The representative said it would most likely be 3-4 weeks after we give the thumbs up for our orders to arrive at our doors.

 

Sorry about the delays guys, really. We are getting very close though! :)

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rudypoochris    10
If it is true and these will fit over the stock suspension I will purchase a set....My wife will be pissed but I will. I would like to know what the final outcome is. A 9 on all 4 corners, or a 9 in front with a 9.5 in back? Color options?

 

There will be a 9" front offered and a 9.5" rear. It is the buyers option if they would like 9.5" all around or 9" alternatively. The color options are posted here:

 

http://rotawheel.com/rb1.htm

 

Additional colors may be available if you ask the representative when he takes your information down. I will take pictures of the wheels mounted with a ruler next to them so you can judge if they will clear a stock suspension. :)

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rudypoochris    10
so question

 

will this be a one time run or will they have these sizes and offsets available for later purchase?

 

I have answered this multiple times in this thread, but no worries, it is a long one I know! :)

 

To answer your question I would THINK that there would still be availability through Rota after this group buy. I am not positive though. It doesn't seem to make sense for them to make a mold just to abandon it.

 

Hope that helps!

 

For the rest of you, I called the rep again to day. No news still unfortunately. :(

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rudypoochris    10
yeah, the last email i had was a end of Feb eta... whats holding it up? other production?

 

Nope, the original issue was basically that the rep misunderstood the offset and they went ahead and made molds for a positive 19 offset. They had to go and redo it. Now we are just waiting for the wheels to come in. They were shipped last week or the end of the week before, but there isn't tracking information apparently. I have just been calling the rep every two days to get an update, but it is mostly the same story.

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dreco    14
Its actually a he (I used the term "she" in the past). And yes, he will be sending out an email requesting payment and confirming options once the wheels are ready for manufacture. I will phone him again if I do not get word from him by 3:30pm today.
woops just assumed it was a female.. Kim and all... my bad.. sounds great.. well, i wont bug him then if your making the calls. i'll just check this thread and wait for an email. my email has changed.. i gave him my new email [email protected]

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rudypoochris    10

I just called the representative. He says he corresponded with the factory and they have not sent out the wheels yet... Which is a big surprise to me, as the representative has been saying otherwise for the past two weeks... He promised they would be sent out within the next two days via air. They SHOULD be here by Monday (I am not sure if he is being ambitious or genuine). There is little I can do about this right now... We shall see...

 

Sorry for the bad news guys. I'm at the mercy of the rep who is at the mercy of the manufacturer. Its frustrating, I know. :ugg:

 

While this time is being eaten up now, I think and hope, that this extra time lost will only lead ultimately to a better product. I would imagine there are many factors that come into play before a wheel can be made - let alone made to look nice and function properly. Lets hope the pace picks up here. Hang in there guys.

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