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Ironically, with a Z-car having about 800# less weight than a Supra, no need to play that game :D A 600+rwhp Z-car with street tires is downright dangerous (contrary to the infamous Darius vids) and with the right tires will annihilate just about anything on the street and not need a $6000 6-spd/clutch to do it :D.

 

You Sir, Are correct.

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Good to see you lurking around Mike :)

 

Oh yes i am lurking hahahah... i was reading over your rear end stiffening comment...i just planned on gusseting the controll arms and other weak areas...doing the cv shaft swap and putting a strong lsd in? is that not enough?

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You will need to do a lot of work to the rear suspension to make this car work. Aftermarket LCAs, lots of reinforcement to the LCA inner mounting, reinforced diff mounting... pretty much every part in the rear suspension needs to be modified and reinforced.

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You will need to do a lot of work to the rear suspension to make this car work. Aftermarket LCAs, lots of reinforcement to the LCA inner mounting, reinforced diff mounting... pretty much every part in the rear suspension needs to be modified and reinforced.

 

at this point $$$$$$ lol BAD JOHN BAD NO MORE NEW LIKE THAT lol....i was hoping i could just modify stock stuff but NOOOO you had to say that..great lol.... ill figure it out.... by the way do you make a tranny mount???

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by the way do you make a tranny mount???

 

Which tranny; TH400, Glide, R154, Getrag 6 Speed, Lenco 4 speed?

 

Is the exhaust going down the driver or passenger side of the car?

 

3", 3.5", 4", or 5" exhaust?

 

As you can see, there are a lot of variables to include in the design of the transmission mount. My answer to your question is: no.

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hey guys giving you all an update... currently waiting on parts i bought..HKS cam gears..hks cam belt..50mm hks wastegate...1.6mm comtech head gasket..valve seals...plus more seals... im also buying my rear sump oil pan and baffels today from the dealer (cant find decent used ones)..if there are any MUST BUYS for the head that im missing please let me know!! im soon done with the stage 3 head build!!!

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hey guys another update....got my 1200hp intake manifold by KU engineering yesturday..and my waste gate..and my 100mm throttle body and my sard fuel rail and HKS valve timing gears...the head its pulled apart and i brought it to the mechine shop to get it ported and polished. also they are going to port match the intake and exhuast manifolds to the head.

I almost have all the big parts!!!! all whats left is a tranny thats the biggest part of them all :(.....

 

still need to buy

 

betamotorsports crossmember

6speed tranny

clutch

flywheel

injectors

intercooler

radiator

 

my god im getting close to putting the motor in!!! LOL :lol:

 

PS www.CARBON8MAG.com came out with thier new issue and our B.customs supra is in it!!! check it out its an awsome magazine and its free..just go DL the issues every month..the supra is the "rare breed indeed" article

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So, you're building a 1,000hp car and you're relying on information from "some kid"? I think you need to be like Danny Larusso and find yourself a Mr. Miyagi.

 

lol john how the hell did you know how to spell miyagi??? im not relyn on him in any way shape or form...iv never thought a 5speed could handle anything over 350hp.. it just made me second guess myself a little :hs:

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Well the merlin crawler 5 speed is pretty strong. If your going to be drag racing the car or banging gears the 5 speed will fail. The V160 can handle anything you throw at it. But at a serious cost, for the trans, rebuild and a tilton clutch to handle that amount of power your looking at nearly 10k. I cant justify spending so much on a trans but the manual trans sure would be nice;-). As stated above if you can afford the 1000HP power build the trans is not such a big deal.

 

Personally I am just going to get myself a TH400 as its way cheaper and can also take all the power you can throw at it.

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Oh yes i am lurking hahahah... i was reading over your rear end stiffening comment...i just planned on gusseting the controll arms and other weak areas...doing the cv shaft swap and putting a strong lsd in? is that not enough?

 

 

If you are seriously going to try and put 1000 crank HP to the wheels thru a 5 speed with a clutch that will hold that amount of power, there isn't a modification you can do to the stock rear suspension that will hold that power.

 

The techno tuning toys IRS setup is pretty close but time will tell once it gets installed in more cars

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According to supraforums, the r154 currently has 2 members putting 7xxrwhp on them, if i recall correctly. Every one knows its just a ticking time bomb. As far as clutchs that will hold the power for the r154, ogura(ORC) makes up to a quad-plate clutch. They also say that the soarer r154 are a bit stronger than the US spec mkIII turbo r154's. Something about the larger something. I forgot. I personally went with the getrag, but then again, i got it for a steal. Best of luck with your project.

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According to supraforums, the r154 currently has 2 members putting 7xxrwhp on them, if i recall correctly. Every one knows its just a ticking time bomb. As far as clutchs that will hold the power for the r154, ogura(ORC) makes up to a quad-plate clutch. They also say that the soarer r154 are a bit stronger than the US spec mkIII turbo r154's. Something about the larger something. I forgot. I personally went with the getrag, but then again, i got it for a steal. Best of luck with your project.

 

 

There are better options than hunting an orc clutch. Duane's car has the new carbon clutch for the r154 and it works great. Sean at titan can get them. however i wouldnt throw 1000hp at any manual trans and call it a day. dont know how much u looked but almost all the 900+rwhp supras are built autos ie th400. 1000rwhp cars are a PAIN in the ass to drive manual.

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There are better options than hunting an orc clutch. Duane's car has the new carbon clutch for the r154 and it works great. Sean at titan can get them. however i wouldnt throw 1000hp at any manual trans and call it a day. dont know how much u looked but almost all the 900+rwhp supras are built autos ie th400. 1000rwhp cars are a PAIN in the ass to drive manual.

 

 

Not so much hunting, taka kaira has them listed on the site and comes with the correct throwout bearing. I believe it was 2-2500 for the quad-plate. pretty reasonable to me. Is the carbon carbon you refer to from rps ? Both great and sad stories from that company, but regardless, more options for the r154.

 

Im not here to argue but there are a lot of people running the stock 6spd w/ power. Ryan Woon from WOTM is almost making 1300rwhp on the 6 spd and trapping 171, Gary White who's trapping 180 in the 1/4 is also on the stock 6spd. Boost Logic, i believe their other car, traps 172 w/ the stock 6spd, Dana Dichara with a 171 on the 6spd. Few of these cars make this trap speed are also full weight as well, thats 3500+. we can go all day listing the fast 6spd's. The people running the th400, power glide, l40e, etc just want to run, and time more reliably/consistently in the 1/4. I say you can go wrong both ways, but some people regret going auto. the high rpm's @ highway speeds, no more "fun" driving around town, etc... but that is all subjective.

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the 154 is a waste. I would go with the getrag 6 ad call it a day after putting a nice 6 puck clutch.....It is widely known in the is 300 community that the 154 will not hold up to abuse.........I owned a is 300 for 7 years.....

 

Perhaps the people using the R154 could learn not to ABUSE it. As already stated, there are plenty of 500+HP vehicles running the R154 without trouble. Of course, if one has $6k-$10k to toss at the Getrag and the proper clutch, then I'd have a hard time arguing.

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i dont think he means the weight distribution, but more that the z weighs 2/3's that of a the supra. less mass means less force on the drivetrain to move itself, therefore a 154 handling way more than power on a z than a supra.

 

true but how much? thats why i weighed the Z with the L28 in it...im curious to see how it effect the 50/50 distrabusion.

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