I know Ferrari has flat plane cranks, thats why i dont understand why its almost like black magic to have one made for a motor. I might try contacting Scat again. I really think this is a fun idea if i can find a company with experience and drive to make it happen. Crower didnt say that they had tried a VH45de flat plane, they just said that the motors they did try shook way too much. Clifton, you have any links to companies that were at SEMA that might be interested? I am wore out from searching the web for a while. Who wants to find the secrets of the Ferrari engine enternals, theirs dont seem to shake too much.. why?