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  1. Looks awesome! Have you ironed out any of the little problems? Yes boost is addicting, Im figuring that out as well.

     

    Still working on some of the issues... seems that with the nicer weather, I've been catching up on more of the work around the house that piled up over the winter.

     

    I actually met if I remember correct your brother in law... hes going to school at SFCC over here in Spokane. He heard me talking to a friend about my Z and showed me your build. If Im not remembering correctly that hes your brother in law, hes into VWs... maybe that narrows it down. :)

     

    Close, that would be Ken, my daughter's SO and dad to my beautiful 7 month old grand-son. In fact he was here, in western WA last weekend and I gave him a ride in the Z. I think he was impressed!

  2. At 5 psi you should not have a problem. You'll have to reseal the intake of course with some RTV. The biggest problem I've seen is around 10 psi. Thats when it starts pushing oil out the breathers. I've ran as high as 17 and it is more of a flow of oil out the breathers. A surge tank will fix this. On two forced induction motors we haven't had a problem with the intake sealing using rtv at the front and rear. If you don't have oil out the breathers it's most likely a bad seal. Also if you have your jetting spaced out like I had mine 81 primary 94 secondary you'll have to be carefull with that due to uneven distibution of fuel. I saw some heat on my #1 and #2 pistons when I changed my heads. BRPV's will take care of that problem. At low boost (>10psi) though you should'nt have a problem. Good luck and don't get frustated with it because it's a blast with a good tune!

     

    I think the seal was bad all along and the added blow-by is now pushing oil out the seal. It may be hard to inspect because it's so tight to the firewall (set back even further than JTR by 3/4 inch). Maybe if I pull the distributor I can get a better look. At worst, I'll pull the intake and re-seal. I didn't expect much blow-by since I did a leak-down check before I added the turbos and the worst cylinder was 97% The thing I don't understand is why it got worse when I disconnected the PCV. I unhooked the line that goes to the base of the Throttle Body and plugged it and just left the PCV in the valve cover open and I got lots of oil running down the bell housing. I hooked it back up and its leaking just a little.

     

    Thanks for the reply... I'm now hooked on boost :-)

  3. Any progress?

     

     

    Sorry for the lack of updates... I was out of town for 16 days, then I was helping my son work on his Datsun 510. Anyway enough of the excuses :-)

     

    I got it on the road for the 1st time last week. A few nagging annoying problems, but nothing major so far. I have an oil leak that appears to be coming out of the back of the intake manifold. I’m guessing the seal between the manifold and the lifter valley (I did use a generous bead of RTV, not the stock gasket). Not sure if its boost related or not, but it wasn’t leaking before the turbos went on. I tried disconnecting the PCV, thinking I was boosting into the crankcase thru it, but it only got worse! I also have an intermittent electric problem that I need to track down that kills the engine. I might be the supply for the MSD module, but it doesn’t happen long enough to trouble shoot. Just a PITA when it decides to quit... especially in traffic :-(

     

    OK, so impressions? I have to say WOW! The boost comes on pretty quick and you can definitely feel it. The 1st day I took it out, the roads were wet (this is near Seattle!) and no matter what speed I was going, the rear end would break loose when boost started kicking in… not a very friendly car to drive in the rain. We just had a couple of dry days, so I got to “feel†the acceleration… pretty cool! Remember, I’ve got the wastegates set to only 5psi, so I not adding a ton of power, but its definitely working for me.

     

    I want to add some insulation to the hood above the turbos (gets pretty hot to the touch, but no paint discoloration) and fix some of the other minor issues, but so far I’m happy with the results.

  4. Is the small block in your model scale? I have been trying to find a SBC 3D model to go along with the scale 3D S30 I am working on. Do you have any vehicle measurements outside of what is in the service manual? I want to make an accurate 3d model of a V8 Zcar.

     

    BTW - great work on the twin turbo... that will be my next build (I have been planning it for a few years now, just trying to get the cash together). One question though, is the paint on your hood discoloring or peeling with the turbos so close?

     

    The 3D model is to scale. I found a CAD model on the web and checked it against dimensions that were in a GM book I have. Should be the same as the ones in the sticky at the top of this forum. You're welcome to a copy (ProE or a nuetral format like IGES or STEP). PM me and I'll send it to you. If a moderator wants to add it to the sticky, let me know.

     

    I haven't run it hard enough to get real hot. but I do have stainless heat shields over the tubines. ( made from a sauce pan I bought at Value Village for 69 cents :) ). So far, I can put my hand onthe hood and it is comfortably warm. I'll probably glue some insulation on the hood above the turbos before I get on it.

  5. Well..... :) how does she feel?

     

    Don't know :( I haven't taken it out of the garage yet. I just got the tune set tonite so it will idle good now. When I rev it up, it bucks a little before smoothing out, but the A/F meter shows about 11.5:1, so I know I have a little tuning to do before I get it on the road. Turbos spinning up sounds cool!!! I tried video w/ my digital camera, but the audio is horrible. Unfortunately I've got another commitment this coming weekend, so probably a couple more weeks. Hey, like I said at the beginning this has been a project I started 4 years ago... what's a couple more weeks :)

  6. Paul - Anyway for you to protect the surge tank? Man if you run over anything on the road at speed, I am afraid it will take that thing out! Don't mean to be a ball buster and not sure if you covered it in any other threads. Just asking.

     

    Yeah, Maybe i should fab a shield to protect it and the lines. The tank itself is .080 thick steel, so pobably not likely to get puntured (i.e. thicker than the sheetmetal inner fenders that seem to hold up OK), but the fuel lines might be easier to cut. Maybe jacketed lines in the exposed area would help. Thanks for pointing it out. BTW, the other black rectangular object is the tranny oil cooler. I did place a expanded metal screen in front of it, since its directly behind the tire. (It's not installed in the picture). The surge tank is more off to the side, but a large object could still get kicked up into it.

  7. Do you happen to have the part # for that alumimum fuel line. All I can find in their catalog is 3ft and 6ft lenghs. I think I will need at least 7 to 8 ft . Did the frame rail additions help or can you tell? Baddog or Maddog Rails?

     

    McMaster PN 5177K46

    $25.10 for 25 ft coil

     

    Easy-Bend Aluminum Tubing

    Also known as Alloy 3003-O, this tubing is softer and more bendable

    than our other aluminum tubing. It has seamless construction.

    Use with water, air, alcohol, and oil. Meets ASTM B483-03,

    B483-75, and B483-95. Not rated for sterilization.

     

    (also available in a bunch of other sizes)

     

    My frame rails are home-brew. They definitely help. I used to get enough body twist that the hood would pop open under hard acceleration... not anymore.

  8. I used a 3/8 aluminum tubing that I gought from McMaster Carr. I ran it along the sub-frame that I had added to strengthen the chassis (it's 3" steel channel). I ran it along the outside, since I was going to the front wheel-well where I mounted the surge tank. I used the stock supply line (which is about 5/16) for the return. You can see the Holley pump near the gas tank.

     

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  9. She runs!! I just fired it up and checked for any obvious issues... no leaks, no smoke, etc. Compressor spins :2thumbs: Just let it idle a bit then shut it down. Need to set the wastegates for lower boost before I take it for a spin. I want to try things out at 6psi just to make sure all is good. The wastegates are now set for 10psi (checked with my air compressor and boost gauge) so I need to modify. They're the stock inernal wastegates, but I found a write-up on how to decrease the boost with an external spring. Also need to make some changes to the Fuel Management system (Holley Commander 950)

     

    Paul

  10. Wow, you guys are too kind :-) and not one person asking "Why do you need more power??"

     

    This site is great!

     

    That's pretty damn cool. Probably the only car I've ever seen where the turbos were placed more or less above the engine.

     

    Yeah, I wasn't too sure about the fit before I started, so I did a fit check using 3D CAD first. I knew it had been done before, but to be sure... (images from ProE)

     

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    And what color blue is your Z? looks like mine probably would if it hadn't faded over the years.

     

    The outside color is close to stock (the engine bay is the original paint) I remember going thru color samples at the paint store looking for a close match. It is actually a mix for an AMC blue. Delstar DAR14025 is the color code. It was painted over 15 years ago (d*mn, I must be getting old )

  11. Wow, thats sweet! Super clean setup. How much power are you thinking?

     

    Thanks for the compliments. I plan to keep it fairly tame (at least at first). The engine really isn't built for boost. It's a 2-bolt block w/ cast crank and hyper-eutectic (sp?) pistons (9.5 CR). I would like to hit 400 rwhp, which I figure I can get with around 6 psi boost. Next winter I plan to build a motor that can take 10 or 12 PSI (forged internals, 4-bolt, etc)

     

    BTW, this is stictly a street machine.

  12. Sometime back in 2004, after seeing Siliconeboy’s turbo project in process http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=89810 , I got inspired to do a Twin Turbo set-up in my 350 Chevy powered 240Z. It didn’t take to long to find the Corvette manifolds and a pair of T3/T4 (.60/.63) from Ford Turbocoupes (inspired by Mike Sitar’s “toohighpsi” Capri http://www.toohighpsi.com/BudgetTT/BudgetTT.htm

     

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    These items sat in my garage collecting dust for the next 4 years :-)

     

    So, last spring I decided it was finally time to get this project in gear. I started by installing an intercooler and relocating the surge tank I was using to supply the Holley Commander EFI system.

     

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    I built an air hat using the tank from a “pancake” style air compressor that I had burned up the motor on.

     

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    Since I wanted to keep the car on the road for the summer, I ran the air hat and intercooler on the NA engine… that got some interesting comments from people peeking under the hood. I jokingly told them that it was a high-tech cold air intake system.

     

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    Around September of this year I parked the car in my shop and got busy building. Lots of stuff had to be relocated to make room and to avoid heat issues. Fuel lines, brake lines, and wiring was re-routed. I moved the battery to the back of the car and used the spaced to mount a bunch of other stuff where it would be out of the way (fuel filter, relays, 2-BAR MAP sensor, coolant overflow tank, Wide-Band O2 sensor module)

     

    I fabbed up the manifolds (thanks again to Siliconeboy for the idea)

     

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    Did some fit checks.

    Built the down-pipes, cold side, etc

     

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    It’s now all together, (as of today) but I haven’t fired it up yet. Hopefully this weekend.

     

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    And, it all fits under the hood J

     

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  13. Had the same problem until I let the engine breathe....

    The CC pressure is not allowing the oil to drain from the turbo into the oil pan. The oil backs up inside the turbo and slips by the seal to enter the exhaust. "Instant Mosquito Fogger".

     

     

    Looking at the picture in post #57, it looks like the valve cover is vented to the throttle body. That would be OK in a NA application, but wouldn't boost pressurize the crankcase it this case?

  14. Paul, Did you get the brakes working? and did they bleed OK? I was going to mount my PV in the same location but was not sure if running the line above the MC and back down would create a area for a air pocket to develop.

     

    I have bled the brakes and have a firm pedal, though I haven't road tested it yet. Note that my MC is quite a bit higher than the stock location, so that could be why I don't have the issue you're concened about. To be honest, I hadn't thought about that :-)

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