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  1. The quality of Maaco jobs varies from shop to shop. Take a look at the finished paint jobs at the Maaco you got a quote from. If you are happy with the quality, I'd say go for it. As you said, your car isn't perfect, and you want it back on the road. I think the "single stage is bad" argument is invalid, since your car came with single stage from the factory. Cared for properly, single stage paint jobs can last decades.

     

    I went through the trouble of doing it myself ( here: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=104557 and here: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=105466 ), but I can tell you that it cost way more than $600 in the end, just for supplies. And that's not counting the number of hours pre AND post paint that was required (after all, time is money).

  2. Not offering any answers here, but reminding everyone that, with the S30, it's not necessarily all about reducing drag, it's also about reducing lift as well. Those can be conflicting pursuits. Increasing drag can reduce lift, if applied in the right location. It just depends what result you're after. Seems the magic combination for the S30 would be something that reduces lift, yet dissipates that huge cloud of air a S30 hauls behind it everywhere. Just my thoughts.

  3. In my experience, the "Autopal" brand of "diamond cut" headlamps like you find on ebay work well when you use proper clear bulbs. They have a nice cutoff in their beam pattern. I have also bought a set of "diamond cut" lights that were not Autopal, and they are AWFUL. Part of this is because of the blue bulbs they sent with them, which are downright dangerous in their inability to light the road, and partially because the pattern is just screwed up. But like I said, I'm very happy with the Autopal set. My $.02.

  4. To all Wangan Midnight fans: YouTube has several episodes of the anime version up now. As of this posting, up to episode 2 has been translated. Many more episodes are available in "raw" (japanese language) versions.

  5. Yarn would be great if you could observe it at speed, either from in the car or beside it, but I'm thinking it would go back to it's original position once you slowed down. If you used something that would stretch under pressure, but hold the stretched shape when you brought the car to a stop, you could observe it easier. That's why I was thinking duct tape, since it's got enough stretchiness to move a bit, but not break. You'd end up with golf ball like dimples where pressure pushed down, and domes where it pushed up. Then there's the problem of breaking up the boundary layer, but I think the pressures above and below the hood are great enough to overcome that.

    Hinged flaps could probably be seen from the cockpit, and I'm theorizing you could tell the amount of pressure difference by how high the flap floated (or didn't). Again, just rednecking it out here.

  6. This is the redneck in me thinking here, feel free to throw beer cans at me:

     

    If someone had a hood they were willing to sacrifice in the name of science, could you take a hood, uniformily cut holes in it, then cover those holes with something (redneck me is thinking duct tape), install on car, drive car, then observe where the material stretched and in which direction? I'm sure it might stretch one way, then the other depending on speed. That would be a problem I can think of right off, but perhaps that can be gotten around. How about small flaps that could be observed from the cockpit?

     

    Just throwing some ideas out there.

  7. I would suspect that the VGs would be the stronger method of keeping the flow attached, while the bump in the roof is the less conspicuous way of doing the same.

     

    That's my theory anyway.

     

    I tend to agree with you, although only more wind tunnel time will tell (airflow ideas are being swatted down like flies around here). Aesthetically, the VG's aren't my cup of tea for my street car, but if a more subtle "trip strip" could provide near the same function, I'm all for it.

  8. Innnnnteresting...I wonder if the VG's would keep the turbulent flow from "seperating" more or would it hurt performance?-Hugh

     

    Well, since my understanding of VG's has improved since I posted this morning, I would say yes. VG's should work to keep the air attached farther down the hatch. If you have an aerodynamic device (spoiler/wing) at the end of your hatch, more air goes over it, thereby increasing it's effectiveness.

     

    So why does the S130 have that "bump" above it's hatch? Were the designers addressing the exhaust fume issue of the S30? Is that all is needed to help the S30? These are my questions, especially since, personally, I'd rather NOT put a rear spoiler on my tail, but I'm not against something around the upper hatch area.

  9. This has already been gone over in some detail in this other thread: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=115294

     

    But the short answer is that you are wrong, and this is why: The vortex generators are there on an airplane to energize the boudary layer so that the airflow over the FLAPS has some effect. It's the effectiveness of the FLAPS that increases the effectiveness of the control surfaces when the wing approaches stall. In the case of the car, when the flow separates there is a vacuum in the area where the flow has separated. This is less pressure on the hatch than what you have with non separated "low pressure" vortices traveling over it. So even without a spoiler, non-separated flow will give you more downforce than separated flow will. But the big benefit is when there is a spoiler or a wing involved the airflow to that "control surface" is energized, which makes it more effective in producing downforce.

     

     

    Thanks,Jon. That explanation works for me!

  10. Hughdogz: the S130 already has a "bump" right above the hatch, supposedly put there by the Nissan engineers to seperate the boundary layer from the rear hatch, thereby reducing lift (TonyD and I butted heads about this awhile back). Which brings me to a larger question:

    Isn't it the purpose of vortex generators to enhance boundary layer adhesion? Isn't this why they are useful on wings, because they enhance lift? Isn't that what we're trying avoid with our cars? I can understand the concept of trying to get air to the rear spoiler to enhance it's downforce properties, but it seems contradictory to increase lift in one spot, just to try and decrease it with a spoiler/wing 3 feet later. Please somebody, send me to school on this...

  11. Just a side note for everyone: When I put my ZG flares on, I used license plate bolt/screw covers (sourced from a local parts store) to cover the exposed screw heads. Gave it a nice finished look. Just an option if you don't want the silver of the screws showing.

     

    I also recommend marking your flares underneath so you'll know which fender they mount to. Simple insurance to save a headache later on.

  12. I bought several small bottles of it recently to play with at an art store. They sell it in the airbrush section. I got a white primer sealer, a pearl white, a black, and a green. I pulled out an old banged up motorcycle tank, and went to spraying with my detail gun. Observations:

     

    I had no real problem with drying on a semi hot day (since I was just playing/practicing with it, I was painting outside). However, I think I was spraying it to dry to start with.

     

    The pearl white came out really well over the white primer (the primer was for use under light colors)

     

    The green and black came out kinda "ehhh", no better than rattle can paint. Not overly suprising since there was little prep work, and it was sprayed over a white primer.

     

    Speaking of rattle can paint, I cleared it with some Duplicolor rattle can clear (remember, I'm "playing"), which did nothing to help the shine.

     

    I believe with some proper clearcoat, the paint can look good. The pearl is really cool looking, even if not overly shiny with the crap clear I put on it.

     

    A big plus is the setup and cleanup! Open the bottle, pour it in your gun. When you're finished, run some water through the gun, and you're basically done!

     

    So check out your local art supply place, and pickup a couple of bottles, and see what happens.

  13. This is gonna sound stupid and too complicated, but I'm gonna post it anyway.:)

    If you or a friend have Forza Motorsport for the Xbox, you can go into it and make paint schemes for any car you've won, one of which is the 240ZG. My Z is black, so of course the one I have in the game is also. However, I had been toying with the idea of putting silver bre stripes on my real car, so for fun, I put silver bre stripes on my Z in the game, to see what it'd look like. Turns out I like it and will eventually do it in reality, just not now. While not as effective as looking at your real car with stripes, you are able to see the car looks moving and from different angles, as well as how it stands out in a pack of other cars.

    Like I said, sounds kinda stupid and complicated, but it works and there's no messy cleanup involved. Just thought I'd throw it out there. Good luck!

  14. Redneck Wind Tunnel:

    1.Find deserted highway.

    2.ignite smoke bomb attached to car in strategic location (in front of windshield, on top of roof)

    3.Drive real fast

    4.Have buddy drive beside you while third buddy in passenger seat videos your car.

     

    [This post is for entertainment purposes only. I accept no liability for anyone catching their car on fire, smokin' up a highway,etc., although I'd like to see the results :) ]

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