Phantom Z Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Hey there guys so I am debating on dropping my 72 Datsun 240Z a little more than an inch. I've been doing lots of research and I'm not sure which springs set I should get. I'm thinking about Tokico blues for the shocks but not sure of springs. I've read a lot on here about some of the troubles some members here has gone through just installing the tokico springs and how the drop is almost identical to the stock height. I'm thinking about the Eibach Prokit finding that it drops from 1-1.5 inches from stock height. Any suggestions and opinions will be very well appreciated. Thanks ahead of time. GDP Here are some pictures of my car. with centerline wheels Edited February 11, 2012 by Phantom Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzydicerule Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) I had tokico lowering springs on my car with a 225/50/16 tire, and it looked like this Obviously an improvement on the stock rock crawler stance, but TBH it wasnt enough for me, i cut 3 of the dead coils up front and 1.5 coils out back and it sits like such big improvement looks wise. i have not been able to drive it yet, and TBH im expecting a pile of **** when it comes to the ride, seeing as i have at most 2 inches of bump travel... I plan on doing a coilover conversion as soon as possible the ride was pretty decent when the tokicos were stock length, and the car handled decently Edited February 11, 2012 by Fuzzydicerule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Z Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Wow big improvement but I don't want to go through the hassle of cutting spings or coils. I just want install them and be set. I also want the ride and handling quality to be there. Thanks for sharing. Quick question, which kind of coilevers are you planning to get? I thought about that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six_Shooter Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) I have Eibach springs installed in my '73, the drop was about 1", but the greatest improvement was the ride and the handling. I'll have to attach pics when I'm on a computer. For now here is a link to my build thread, that has pictures before and after in it. http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/101522-six-shooters-cause-of-stress-and-relief Edited February 12, 2012 by Six_Shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Z Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 That looks good so far. My car is also in the restoration process. So sounds like I'm going for Tokico struts and Eibach springs! I love the way all your Z's look. Thanks alot for sharing images of your wonderful Zs! I will update and post more pictures after my installations but still do upload and share images of your Zs. Thanks so much! You have been real helpful! GDP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzydicerule Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 You're not going to get a good stance with off the shelf lowering springs. and you're not getting a good ride with said stance with stock length strut tubes. TBH, Im going to piece together my own ground control style set using generic hats and threaded sections, QA1 springs, and some Bilstein P30 strut inserts (refer to the coilover install in the faqs section.) i was torn between a ground control style kit and getting an S13 coilover conversion kit, and some literature i found while researching the latter , made me decide on the former (basically, a test of shocks, ending by saying everything other than bilstein, penske, koni, and a handful of others are complete rubbish, and that a GC Kit with bilsteins will ride and handle much better than say a set of S13 megans or Godspeed or one of those generic Coilovers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six_Shooter Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 You're not going to get a good stance with off the shelf lowering springs. and you're not getting a good ride with said stance with stock length strut tubes. I whole heartedly disagree with this statement. I have stock length strut tubes, off the shelf parts and have a stance that I would refer to as "good", maybe even "great," and the ride is also what I would consider "good," much better than when I had the stock springs installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTHALOSISM Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 This past weekend I just cut the stock springs, 3 coils all around. (Hotwheels emblem is photochopped) Before After Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Eibach/Tokico combo on my 260Z: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebekahsZ Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Wow, I had forgotten just how high a stock z-car is! Make sure to stay away from any springs claiming to be "progressive." The soft coils on a progressive spring just coil bind as if they were not there and you lose any travel that you have left. Stick with constant rate springs. When you go low, you also want to go stiffer rate in order to avoid bottoming out. Have a friend who just installed some Suspension Techniques springs and they worked out fine. Edited February 17, 2012 by RebekahsZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke87gt Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 On 2/17/2012 at 1:21 PM, Leon said: Eibach/Tokico combo on my 260Z: How much did you cut off the front springs? That looks a lot lower than the Eibach equipped Zs I’ve seen which tend to look nose high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, luke87gt said: How much did you cut off the front springs? That looks a lot lower than the Eibach equipped Zs I’ve seen which tend to look nose high. I didn't cut any coils off, it turns out the 260Z spring perch is lower than the 240Z. https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/38373-240z-eibach-springs-in-260z/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguyzzzz Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Hi! just finished the few threads about getting eibachs into a 260z. I was hoping to get some more information from you. i have an early 74 270z. And I am in the process of cleaning and updating the suspension. I have already bought new kybs and energy suspension bumpstops. However I am unsure to use my old springs, they are stock I believe. Or to go with the 240z eibach Springs, after reading your post I was wondering what ended up happening? Does the front bottom out and sit poorly due to the lower perch? should I avoid the eibachs and keep the stock springs? Any help would be appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannyknot Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 The energy poly bumpstops are terrible, if you ever bottom out and hit them it's bone jarring, the poly foam bumpstops are superior and stop the bump but with a lot more control, Koni makes good ones. The Eibach lowing springs are pretty good which is why they are so popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhm Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Only you, the owner/driver, can answer the question of Eibach (or any similar lowering spring) vs stock. Do you want stock ride height and softer ride, of do you want lowering and firmer suspension? Tokico is another good lowering spring, but they're pretty hard to find at this point. Vogtland seems to get good reviews, but I have no personal experience with them. Here's a link to one vendor for the high-quality bump stops referred to above. Pricey, but worth it if you're serious about good handling: http://www.fatcatmotorsports.com/FCM_bump_stops.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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