260zeto Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 just replaced the head gasket on my 260 but i cant get the car to start. Car was running fine before but now it just cranks. Made sure #1 cylinder was at tdc(the cylinder closest to the radiator) and I made sure the cam lobes on the same cylinder were pointing to 10 and 2. I made sure the little notches on the oil pump lined up and i primed it with oil. The distributor went in the 11:28 position. All my plugs are going counter clockwise 153642. I didnt really mess with the carbs. They were working fine before so i just put them back on. Fuel Is getting to the carbs. Idk what i did wrong but i did something wrong and id like to figure it out. Is there something im missing or is there a common spot where people mess up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewZed Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Have you confirmed spark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260zeto Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 I pulled a plug and attached a spark plug to it and tried to start it. I didnt see any spark at the spark plug. What do u think would be causing this? Everything was working prior to this adventure. I took the distributor cap off and it was pretty rusty inside. I tried to clean some off the rust off but it didnt seem to make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewZed Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 260Z's came with electronic ignition. Check the FSM. Shouldn't be any rust at all in the cap. Maybe on the distributor parts. Odds are though that you misplaced a wire. Doube check the wiring. Is "yo" really that hard to type in? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260zeto Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Whats the fsm? idk what you mean "yo"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/109702-hybridz-is-not-automotive-101/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCressey Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 FSM = Factory Service Manual Sounds like you didn't wire something correctly at the distributor, coil, etc... Replace your rotor and cap if there is rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260zeto Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 So I disconnected the coil from the distributor and held it to the frame while i tried to start it and there is no spark. All the connections to the coil have not been tampered with and look correct. Any idea what would cause this to happen? Can i run some wire from the battery straight to the coil and see if I can start it or would this be a bad idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewZed Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 So I disconnected the coil from the distributor and held it to the frame while i tried to start it and there is no spark. This is not how you test for spark. Besides the fact that for a stock 260Z electronic ignition the coil is not connected to the distributor. No easy fixes. Cars is hard. http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/280z/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260zeto Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 maybe im using the wrong terminology. The batter goes to the alternator and the alternator goes to the wiring harness which goes to the black cylinder which is the ignitor correct? that goes to the distributor and from the distribuor to the wires, wires to the spark plugs. Why cant I check to see if my ignitor is sending output by holding it to a piece of metal and looking for spark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewZed Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 maybe im using the wrong terminology. The batter goes to the alternator and the alternator goes to the wiring harness which goes to the black cylinder which is the ignitor correct? that goes to the distributor and from the distribuor to the wires, wires to the spark plugs. Why cant I check to see if my ignitor is sending output by holding it to a piece of metal and looking for spark? The batter(y) goes to the alternator and the alternator goes to the wiring harness which goes to the black cylinder which is the ignitor correct? - No, this is wrong, in many ways. Too many black cylinders in the engine bay to really know which one you're talking about. The black cylinder is probably your coil. The other stuff doesn't make any sense since you keep talking about an "ignitor" and your 260Z shouldn't have one. You're going to have to find a full-size computer and open up the FSM if you want to make any progress. The phone screen isn't going to get it done. There are drawings of the coil, so you'll know what that black cylinder is. At least put the phone to good use and take a picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 How can anyone help you when you don't know the names of the components you are testing or proper testing procedures? By reading the FSM you will have the correct terminology to more clearly explain your problem which is more likely to elicit helpful responses. You will also become a better mechanic. The FSM may even have the exact solution to your problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260zeto Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 is that fsm posted for the 260z? This car is not stock. The motor is an l28 with su carbs and i believe it doesnt have points. I was not seeing any spark from the ignition coil(the black cylinder attached near the driver side front wheel). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260zeto Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 i seriously cant even tell whats going on on this page here http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/260z/1974/1974%20Manual%20Electrical%20Diagram.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewZed Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I gave you the wrong link but it looks like you found the right section anyway. This chapter is what you want though - http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/260z/1974/EE%20Engine%20Electrical.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 After reading your other posts, and your replies to attempts to help you, I have come to the conclusion that you are playing games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260zeto Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 why is that? Im not very smart so maybe thats the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 You can get a copy of the factory service manual (FSM) here: http://www.xenons30.com/reference.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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