(goldfish) Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Did you guys get any more insight into the numbers generated by the whaletail. It looks to me like it's making lift out there? Am I reading that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Downforce in the rear. Front end got light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 The whaletail produced 300 units of downforce. It's a tremendous device for generating rear downforce. The key is to couple it with the appropriate spoiler up front. We should have tested it with the MSA Type3 spoiler. That would have probably generated a combo similar to the APR rear wing data. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(goldfish) Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 What jon says makes sense tom me, but I must be reading this chart wrong. Not that I doubt you, I just want to learn how to read this correctly for myself. Please point out my errors. The legend states "C LR rear lift neg # = lift, pos # = down force on rear end" For test 10 the whaletail, I read column 4 (CLR) with a value of -.259, and column 12 ( rear lift) as ~-176. It also looks like the other high downforce "spoilers" had the same negative number trends. Like I said I'm really getting lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I think that what you are seeing is that all those numbers are rated in lift, positive lift being up, and negative lift being down. Or maybe I've got it backwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIM73240Z Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 positive #'s means a upward force (lift) is generated. -#'s means downforce. at the test speed, the ass end of the car got 176# heavier than it was standing still. equal to 2 bags of concrete sitting in the back. with that extra downforce (weight) it lifted up the nose of the car. this is where the air dam and ducting come in to bring the nose back down to level or there abouts. hope that helps jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(goldfish) Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 positive #'s means a upward force (lift) is generated. -#'s means downforce. at the test speed, the ass end of the car got 176# heavier than it was standing still. equal to 2 bags of concrete sitting in the back. with that extra downforce (weight) it lifted up the nose of the car. this is where the air dam and ducting come in to bring the nose back down to level or there abouts. hope that helps jimbo So, I'm understanding the legend explaining the numbers wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 I think that is correct, the legend is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIM73240Z Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 I just looked at the data again and it appears that the legend is backwards because the whale tail and wing all creat negative numbers where a stock rear end is a positive number. i think this is where the confusion stems from. jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proxlamus© Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 i just wish the whale tail wasnt so damn ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93anthracite Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 i just wish the whale tail wasnt so damn ugly heresy! How dare you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proxlamus© Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 LoL. a whale tail belongs on a Porsche.. ruins the lines of the Z =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 LoL. a whale tail belongs on a Porsche.. ruins the lines of the Z =) "Erroneous! Erroneous on all counts!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(goldfish) Posted May 19, 2007 Author Share Posted May 19, 2007 LoL. a whale tail belongs on a Porsche.. ruins the lines of the Z =) Well, he left out the ZX which we all know looks better to start with At least I'm not crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proxlamus© Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 i agree it looks good on a ZX lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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