Z2000 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Just got to the next phase and this time I made sure to start the thread in the right place. These pics should be the final fit. After clearancing, moving, modding several things the engine is in where it belongs now. The plan is to start building mounts tomorrow. These are crappy pics because they were taken with my phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwharton85 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Very interested at how well this goes. For this swap is one that i am thinking about doing in my Z. Do you plan on modifying the engine in any way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihavearustedz Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Take better and more pictures! I was thinking to myself swap for some time now, would be cool to see how it turns out. It should be an awesome setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffGarcia77 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Cool how the shifter came up through the stock opening, AND the engine sits nice and close to the firewall. It's great when things work out that way, isn't it. A word of encouragement: the S2000 shifter action and feel are probably the best in the world! But you already know that, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Sweeeeeet. Nice to SEE some progress. Are you going to be able to weigh the engine before final mounting? Even engine + trans numbers would be nice, if we knew exactly what was on and in the motor. (flywheel, clutch, alternator, water pump, power steering, AC, oil, water, etc. Too many engine weights out there don't give those types of specs. If this swap ends up moving the weight farther back and lightens the car overall it could make for some nice driving characteristics. Though JohnC preaches that weight balance doesn't matter as much as we like to think, and I agree with him; but that doesn't mean you won't notice an improvement. And 240 stock HP isn't bad. 240HP is HARD to achieve in the L series unless you're going to have head work done and run a decently loppy cam. Should scoot pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z2000 Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Thanks for the replys. I will be taking more pics, time is my biggest enemy right now so the pics and writeup probably wont be as detailed as you may want but I will do the best with the time I have. Very interested at how well this goes. For this swap is one that i am thinking about doing in my Z. Do you plan on modifying the engine in any way? I already have a set of busa ITB's to fab together for this engine but that is well down the road as well as headwork and proper cams. The goal right now is to get this thing on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z2000 Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Cool how the shifter came up through the stock opening, AND the engine sits nice and close to the firewall. It's great when things work out that way, isn't it. A word of encouragement: the S2000 shifter action and feel are probably the best in the world! But you already know that, I'm sure. Believe me it wasnt that close the first try. Had to move brake lines, fuel lines, modify the tunnel a bit, and remove the hood latch bracket and then it fit. And Im still going to have to modify the tunnel a bit more on the exhaust side because the exhaust manifold wont fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z2000 Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 Today I was able to tack up the engine mounts and nearly complete the tranny X member. Just need to pull the engine back out so I can run all the welds on the engine mounts and I will probably be adding a couple gussets to the tranny X member for extra strength since its at a funny angle. Here are todays pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73DatsunZ Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Holy chit that engine looks tiny in there! This is such a unique engine swap, I can't want to see how it turns out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z2000 Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Just picked up my rear end today! 4.44 gears with LSD out of a subie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 R160? I hope it doesn't break man. What's your curb weight goal? Might want to keep away from wider tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexicoker Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Did you piece together a 4.44 R160 and a the LSD from a 3.70? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z2000 Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Gollum, Yes R160, these are very under rated to say the least. I have seen many R160's hold up just fine to 500 hp setups. My curb weight goal is 2,000 lbs. I have 15x7 Watanabe rims but havnt picked tires yet. If it breaks I will just have to cryo the next one haha:) R160 has minimal weight and drivetrain loss which makes it the right choice. Flexicoker, I sourced the rear end from a 01 subaru 2.5 automatic. Comes stock with 4.44 gears and lsd. The only thing i have to do is convert to snap in axles and everything else is good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMV8(1day) Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 That looks like its its going to be an awesome build, I don't know how much you've looked into the N/A aftermarket for the F20C, but you could check out a guy named John Grudynski over at Hytech Performance or InlinePro around my neck of the woods. Hytech claimed a solid, bolt-on setup making 283whp on an F22C with 50mm Jenvey ITB's, Cams, retainers, springs, header, race cat, and dual 2.5in exhaust. The kits alittle on the expensive side but supposedly as impressive as the peak power is, the torque and powerband is supposed to be amazing. They had an article in Honda Tuning Aug issue. As far as InlinePro is though, they've gotta be at least the top 3 S2K shops in the country, right now they've got dyno results on a 300+ NA non-stroked F20C and they have a pile of record breaking S2K's in drag and circuit racing, and a GT35R 500+ whp kit on stock internals using a 3mm head gasket to get compression down to 9:1. If your looking for stroker power I hear (through a well established publication, not forum talk) that a F20C will perfectly fit a TSX K24A2 Crankshaft coupled with H22A internals making 2.4L, BrianCrower also makes a nice stroker kit, and I believe inlinePro has a few stroker kits as well. Just my .02, the best of luck with your build, I'd love to see how it handled once you get everything worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z2000 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 That looks like its its going to be an awesome build, I don't know how much you've looked into the N/A aftermarket for the F20C, but you could check out a guy named John Grudynski over at Hytech Performance or InlinePro around my neck of the woods. Hytech claimed a solid, bolt-on setup making 283whp on an F22C with 50mm Jenvey ITB's, Cams, retainers, springs, header, race cat, and dual 2.5in exhaust. The kits alittle on the expensive side but supposedly as impressive as the peak power is, the torque and powerband is supposed to be amazing. They had an article in Honda Tuning Aug issue. As far as InlinePro is though, they've gotta be at least the top 3 S2K shops in the country, right now they've got dyno results on a 300+ NA non-stroked F20C and they have a pile of record breaking S2K's in drag and circuit racing, and a GT35R 500+ whp kit on stock internals using a 3mm head gasket to get compression down to 9:1. If your looking for stroker power I hear (through a well established publication, not forum talk) that a F20C will perfectly fit a TSX K24A2 Crankshaft coupled with H22A internals making 2.4L, BrianCrower also makes a nice stroker kit, and I believe inlinePro has a few stroker kits as well.Just my .02, the best of luck with your build, I'd love to see how it handled once you get everything worked out. Thanks for the support! I plan to keep away from the stroker cranks. My headwork alone will make the torque of a 2.2L without increasing piston speed and killing rpm potental. Shortly after the swap is done I plan to port the head, run custom cams (maybe hytech if he is willing to talk profiles with me) and valveterain, ITB's, and my own header. Im expecting over 300whp at high rpm on pump gas. But lets not get too ahead of ourselves, this is will be after the project is on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJLamberson Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I wanna see! lets meet up some time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I wanna see! lets meet up some time Well, if you both show up to the August 30th meet... I just really hope by some magical event that this car is on the road by then. (just seems like there's still going to be so much left to do in such little time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Jeez. My setup is the extreme opposite, huge motor in a little car. Nice swap, those little F series motors really wind to the moon too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z2000 Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 Today I ordered my AEM ems standalone! Also picked up the extra stub shaft needed so I can send them in to get converted to snap in stubs. Also went to "Battle of the Imports" at Sacramento Raceway. All motor fastest I saw was 9.4 @144mph and the fastest turbo was in the low 7's. Killed a lot of birds with todays stone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z2000 Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 here are a few more recent pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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