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USA Canada Australia Great Britain Others

1969 500 0 0 0 0

1970 16,215 1201 319 2 3

1971 33,684 3440 894 264 89

1972 52,628 4020 362 549 494

1973 45,588 2537 783 1,114 430

1974 40,172 1370 442 129 1

1974 2+2 9,499 766 599 320 153

1975 40,216 1153 198 20 23

1975 2 +2 11,594 329 742 139 493

1976 45,766 876 385 07

1976 2+2 13,792 351 1615 444 454

1977 54,594 1005 98 312 63

1978 ???

 

see this link:

http://www.zhome.com/

 

Production figures.

 

ds

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Hi Nic-Rebel 450CA,

 

PLEASE don't place too much faith in the numbers on that list. They were originally supplied by Nissan's USA operation at the launch of the S130-series Z and they were of better use to advertisers trying to launch a new model than to true historians.

 

You have to watch out for the question being loaded too. A better question to ask might be how many S30-series Z cars were produced in each year ( not 'Model Year' and not just ONE market version ) and then the breakdown over model type and the market it was sold in.

 

When you ask about the "240Z", I wonder if you actually mean ALL types of S30-series Z cars, or JUST the USA market "240Z"?

 

The list might lead people to believe that EXACTLY 500 "240Z" cars were built in 1969 ( that's a nice round figure isn't it?! ) and that no other S30-series Z cars were built in that year - which is quite far from the truth.

 

The "other" section is also misleading, and the fact that the list does not even mention Japan specifically makes it either confusing, plain inaccurate, or both.

 

Another example that would question the accuracy of the list is the amount of "240Z" cars that were supposedly sold to "other" markets in 1971. If the "other" section DOES indeed include Japan then the list is completely wrong, as several thousand HS30 models were made for the Japanese market in 1971 and not 89 as the list shows. If the "other" section does NOT include Japan, then the list is pretty much meaningless as a historical reference anyway.

 

Nissan were notoriously bad at supplying accurate information on the WHOLE picture of their production numbers, although the USA operation had a pretty good handle on what they received and therefore the USA and Canadian market totals are more reliable.

 

Hope you don't mind me making the point.

Sincerely,

Alan T.

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so theres no way to find out how many models of each HS30 were in america?

from 240Z to 280Z.

how about color? i wanted to know how many 280Z's were made with the 302 paint code (leaf green metallic)...

i guess its impossiable to tell.. which sucks..

 

mike

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so theres no way to find out how many models of each HS30 were in america?

from 240Z to 280Z.

mike

 

I never said that.

 

I think you can get pretty accurate information about JUST the USA / Canada market "HLS30" ( if that's all you are interested in ) because NMC USA kept a good record of what was imported.

 

However that's quite different from the actual total that were MADE - isn't it?

 

As for colours - maybe somebody in the USA might know a breakdown for that market.

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Well, the first thing you have to realise is that its no.2188 of the "HLS30" prefixed cars.

 

In your car's case the "HLS30" refers to the HLS30-U model that was produced for the USA / North American market ( as opposed to the other LHD Export markets such as countries in mainland Europe ).

 

Do remember that there were also cars with the VIN numbers "S30-002188" & "HS30-002188".

 

If they had made that many 432's then there would have been the VIN number "PS30-002188" - but they didn't.

 

So, your car is the 2188th HLS30 to be given a number by the Factory, but its NOT the 2188th S30-series Z to be built and its not the 2188th "240Z" to be built either.

 

They didn't start from zero for each Model Year if that's what you mean.

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