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  2. hi, I'm interested in the whole project.
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  4. Hey im interested in the brake kit. Is it for front and rear? and do you know if theres any differences between the 280z and 240z in terms of that brake kit? shoot me a text for faster response. 347-409-8833
  5. As far as I know ,up through the 1983 ZX they never used bubble flares.
  6. That noise was entirely 3rd gear related? Seemed to be happening regardless of gear. I had a similar one on my car, could only hear on decel. Turned out my driveshaft AND CV bolts had loosened. I safety wired the CVs and double nutted the driveshaft and haven't heard it since, but I'm just autocrossing, so not nearly as much chance to hear things like that. Can you add more hood vents? Under hood air looks like a problem for you. 167 mph on Conrod. Very impressive, and agree with Richard, nice job resisting the lift at the kink! In the sim-racing world, it's a toss up for me between Nordschleife and Bathurst for me. My two favorites. Hope to some day get there and drive something, probably a rental Kia around it. Inspiring stuff, thanks for sharing.
  7. There is quite a bit of weight in the tubes. When I did mine the SCCA said they were going to change the tubing requirements, and at the time they had 1.5 x .120 and 1.75 x .090. I went with 1.75 x .120 anticipating a change to a heavier tube, but when they released the rules, they had gone the other way and the requirement was 1.5 x .095. I haven't gone through how much weight I would have saved with 1.5 x .095, but man, I wish I had gone that way. Probably 50 lbs added, a lot of it way up high. Not good. EDIT--I did do the 6 point main part of the cage in 1.75 x .120, then I did all of the other stiffening tubes in 1.625 x .065.
  8. Lost a tooth on each of the 3rd gears. new one on the way. power out on start was isolator flicking off on change to 3rd gear. Had me stumped for a sec.
  9. jonbill

    9,000 rpm?

    I don't think the p90 is critical to being able to rev that high, but its a good starting point if you want to make power up there. There's lots of info on here about the qualities of the p90in terms of air flow and Squish.
  10. Put your footage up, stuff em, what are they going to do? Sounds like bull**** to me. Noise? Drivetrain eh. Nice speed through the Kink, fags backing off there need some brave pills.
  11. Alignment done today. Left side was WAY out but somehow I got the right rear dead on. Found out one of my local datsun friends did the alignments at a Les Schwab nearby and got it done through him. He took the time to pull the spindle pin for the rear of each control arm to ensure we got the toe as close as possible. Camber all got suprisingly close too! All of it ranges from about ~ -1.3 in the front to ~ -1.5-1.8 in the rear. My current ride height is perfect and doesn't need excessive negative camber for good clearance, but it seems like the rear right tire has been rubbing slightly on the lip on the way out of hte carport, so I'll probably do a mild roll on the back for better clearance.
  12. I built my car many years ago not knowing about suspension. I bought/pillaged a person's adjustable coilovers from their s30 project they failed to complete. I know nothing of the stats on the coilovers I bought other than it rides like a medieval ox cart lol. I'm assuming they went for some extreme track setup and its absolutely punishing on the street. Very bouncy and it seems (my guess) that the super stiff spring rates are overwhelming the damping of the strut. I've actually hit my head on the roof going over a train track. I'm wondering when my strut tower mounts are going to start cracking from metal fatigue lol. I'd like to change the entire setup out with different struts/coils/sway bars. My car is what I call a weekend warrior, daily driver street machine. I want a compliant ride with decent handling still. I'd like to hear some combinations and experiences that people have liked on their cars. I know that many people have had good luck with going with softer springs and increase thickness of the sway bars but I'm willing to hear thoughts on every setup. I do like the thought of adjustable dampers too. If this topic is an existing sticky, i missed it Stats on car: 76 280z LS1+T56 2550 lbs ( don't know the load distribution but probably close to the original car) Thanks in advance guys and gals!
  13. If there's one thing HybridZ loves, it's actual engineering. Nice work.
  14. So I am better informed what year did the Z go to the bubble flare.
  15. Introduction Hi everyone, my name is Noah and I design all sorts of hotrod suspensions and chassis for a living, and have been using my 240z to play around with some of my more hair-brained ideas. I'm @noahdropkin on instagram if you want to see more of my over-engineered Z parts. I'm putting all this out there because I'm confident that nobody would actually take the time to reverse engineer what I've done here and turn it into a marketable kit, its just far too expensive to produce. You can go take the parts off a wrecked 2015 mustang and hack them up, I promise you it wont work worth a damn. For anyone who really wants one, if you can arrange 5 people to each pay ~$5K for a complete set of double adjustable coilovers and a complete front end suspension kit, then I'll find a way to do a small run. If you want to know why this thing is so expensive, see the exploded view down below. (I spent weeks hunched over a lathe.) I built one more kit for Mr. 280Z-LS3 (he's doing a build thread, go check it out), because having to deliver him a kit was the motivator I needed to actually get the whole thing done, and because it was many long chats with him that got me thinking and sent me down this rabbit hole. Yes, I could've done a double wishbone setup, but that's been done before and has some inherent compromises I wanted to avoid. I recently got the chance to compare the kinematics of this setup to one of the dual wishbone front ends out there for a Z, and was very pleasantly surprised to see how advantageous this is in terms of scrub radius and camber change. Lets dig in: I knew when I picked up my 240Z I'd end up building some sort of specialized suspension setup for it, but I didn't quite know what. I knew I was going to need a new rear end to handle LS power and came across a Ford Super 8.8” (2015+ Mustang Diff) IRS swap kit that seemed to tick all the boxes, and got my hands on one of the first kits. That kit uses a 2014 Mustang front spindle so that the front and rear bolt patterns match, and so that you can use 2014 Mustang front brakes to match the rear. Unfortunately, using a 2014 mustang spindle on a 1972 240z doesn't work out that well for a couple of reasons. The first is that the wheel gets pushed forward in the wheel well the better part of 2 inches. If you compare a 240z front spindle and a 2014 Mustang you can see that the Mustang wheel center is pushed forwards of the kingpin axis, which is the axis which connects the lower ball joint and the coilover mount, and is what the wheel rotates about as the wheel turns. Now, this isn't an unsolvable problem. If you've got fender flares on your car you can mount the flare and cut the fender up so that it doesn't look like the wheel is that far forward, but if you're not using flares you're a bit out of luck. If you were to try pushing the lower ball joint rearwards, either by hacking up the arm or flipping the front control arm bushing around, you'll end up with no caster angle, which means the wheels wont self-center themselves correctly when driving. The second problem is one that all Z's using wide tires with big offsets share, and is exacerbated if you've got fender flares. The scrub radius of the suspension is the distance between the center of the tire contact patch and the point where the kingpin axis intersects the ground. The larger the scrub radius, the harder it is to steer the tire, so small scrub radii are desirable. In order to change the scrub radius of your suspension without moving the tire you need to move either the lower ball joint or the upper shock pivot. In many cases, the brake rotor gets in the way of where you'd want to put the lower ball joint, and nobody wants to cut up their strut tower to move the shock mount drastically. If you could move the lower ball joint out or the shock mount in you'd also increase the kingpin inclination angle, which means you'll have more camber change as you steer the wheel. Now, this isn't great, you want a pretty low kingpin inclination, but often times you have to take what you can get. (For those of you following along at home, we're on page 626 of Milliken and Milliken's Race Car Vehicle Dynamics) So, how do you push the lower ball joint out with a brake rotor in the way? Well that's where the 2015 Mustang spindle comes into play. This spindle uses what's called a "split lower link" where what used to be one lower A-arm with three pivots (which is what the S30 uses, it's just split into two parts) is replaced by two links with two ball joints each. In this setup, the kingpin axis is formed between the upper pivot and the instant center formed by the two lower links (the intersection of the two links). This is shown on the 2015 Mustang spindle below, looking up from the ground. (THIS IS WHERE THE MAGIC HAPPENS) So here's where this gets even trickier. On the 2015+ Mustang the two links go to the front and middle of the car (shown in green), and the S30 has it's two mounts at the middle and rear of the suspension (shown in red). Luckily this can be used to our advantage. Ford wanted to keep the lower instant center in (more or less) the same place as on the 2014 Mustang. By shifting the links around we can push the lower instant center towards the front of the car, bringing the wheel backwards! This gets the center of the wheel right back to where it was in stock S30 suspension, solving the biggest problem with the 2014 spindle. The difficult part in doing this is connecting the linkages to the mustang spindle in ways Ford never intended. The 2015 Mustang uses one link on top and one on the bottom of the knuckle, which helps prevent them crashing into each other. Because the S30 control arm mounts are on an axis parallel to the ground, if you were to mount the two links to the stock frame locations and the stock points on the spindle, you’d have undrivable amounts of camber change. So, in order to adapt two spherical bearings onto the Mustang spindle I machined tapered spacers that are pressed into the spindle, through which two 190ksi 12-point aircraft shank bolts pass through, bolting the whole thing together. The price on these bolts is eye watering. Luckily the spindle can be steered to the stock steering angle before the two links collide, though a hard stop is required on the steering rack to limit travel. The steering arm on the 2015 spindle is rather short, but should be well suited for autocross and track day driving, though it might be a bit twitchy on the highway. The 4° of caster should take care of high-speed stability. Rather than pay someone a fortune to build custom coilovers for this I decided to tackle that myself, using a universal Koni double adjustable strut insert as my starting point. To make life a little bit easier I got in touch with TechnoToyTuning and asked if they would sell me the threaded shock tubes with gland nuts that they use in their coilovers and they were happy to oblige. They also supplied the spring perches and threaded sleeves. For springs I settled on 350lbs/in in the front and 300 lbs/in in the rear, each paired with a tender spring. This nets me roughly 2” of droop travel from ride height and 4” of bump travel. Spring rates were determined based on a target roll gradient of 2.85 °/g, which can be increased to 2.55°/g by use of a 1” dia. 0.065” wall anti-roll bar up front and .75” dia. 0.125” in the rear. Thanks for reading the whole thing! DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME. Statics: 2014 2015 Kingpin Angle (°) 14 15.61 Caster Angle (°) 3.16 4.05 Scrub Radius (in) 3.79 2.52 Front Roll Center Height (in) 0.9 1.96 Steering Arm (in) 4.2 3.39 Mechanical Trail (in) -0.32 0.379 Wheelbase (in) 92.6 90.9 FVSAL (in) 215 146 2015 Spindle (left) vs 2014 Spindle (right)
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  17. madkaw

    9,000 rpm?

    So it’s optimal at 9k - so that doesn’t mean you build an engine around them. I’m quite sure they are very efficient below that . What ID are they? Start shopping for a billet crank at 3500$ plus and then throw in another 10k on the engine build and you might get there
  18. myles

    9,000 rpm?

    Well really the reason why I wanted the Jenvey throttle kit was because it is optimal at 9k rpm. I wanted my engine to be able to be there anyway.
  19. NewZed

    9,000 rpm?

    This is a bad reason to try to get to 9,000 RPM. Not logical. Buy a kit that is most optimal at 5,500 RPM.
  20. myles

    9,000 rpm?

    One more question sorry. Do you think the p90 head is necessary?
  21. jonbill

    9,000 rpm?

    well I found that 8700 was just too much as it was getting dialed in on the dyno, so we didn't get a run recorded. the machine was saying more than 300bhp somewhere after 8000 as I was watching before it ended abruptly.
  22. myles

    9,000 rpm?

    thank you, also have you had it dyno'd? I would love to know the power it's making.
  23. jonbill

    9,000 rpm?

    its an f54 bored to 88.5, standard l28 crank balanced with the flywheel and clutch, maxpeedingrods l28 rods, Kameari forged pistons. welded p90 head, standard valves, 0.585"/308° cam, Kameari twin idler tensioner, kameari crank damper, zstory exhaust, fajs ITBs, Speeduino EFI. thats probably about it.
  24. myles

    9,000 rpm?

    What else is in your motor? Rods, pistons, cam, crank etc:
  25. So, purely for diagnostic purposes, I have a video. Ummm just trying to work out a noise.......
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