V8 swap motor trany mounts

[Guest Anonymous]

I ordered the M.S.A 350 motor mounts and the

700r tranny mounts. for my 77z. I plan on re welding my engine compartment frame rails which looks like they need it. or will the factory welds be sufficient?. also with the msa kit will I still need to re locate my hood latch?.

I have every thing I think I need.

also my suspension consists of eibach prokit

springs koni red struts. 3/4 rear swaybar and 7/8 front. with the v8 installed will this a suitable suspension? or do you see any

thing I need to change?. my v8 will put out aprox 315 horses.

thanks for the info. Steve.

[Modern Motorsports Ltd]

What about your front frame rails 'looks like they need it' makes you think they need more welding? Corrosion/cracked welds.....? Do you have the JTR book? (had to ask, haven't heard of anyone ordering MSA who does have it, if you can weld I'd guess you would've made the mounts, just my .02c)

 

One area that often comes up as a weak spot can be the swaybar tie-ins near the front frame rail. Reinforce this area so they don't tear out. You may get away from the easy hood latch mod but generally it's needed for a decent rearward engine displacement. Seen many people go to great pains to avoid this and finally just do it in the end as it's usually the right thing. More with Z experience will comment I'm sure (mine's a ZX and my dad's Lt1 Z doesn't have a rear dizzy:-).

 

keep pics etc as they're great memories years later to enjoy (wish I'd taken more)

 

good luck

 

 

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[Guest Anonymous]

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Originally posted by Ross C:

What about your front frame rails 'looks like they need it' makes you think they need more welding? Corrosion/cracked welds.....? Do you have the JTR book? (had to ask, haven't heard of anyone ordering MSA who does have it, if you can weld I'd guess you would've made the mounts, just my .02c)

 

One area that often comes up as a weak spot can be the swaybar tie-ins near the front frame rail. Reinforce this area so they don't tear out. You may get away from the easy hood latch mod but generally it's needed for a decent rearward engine displacement. Seen many people go to great pains to avoid this and finally just do it in the end as it's usually the right thing. More with Z experience will comment I'm sure (mine's a ZX and my dad's Lt1 Z doesn't have a rear dizzy:-).

 

keep pics etc as they're great memories years later to enjoy (wish I'd taken more)

 

good luck

 

 

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I have welding experience its not a problem

for me. I was concerned with the factory tach

welds, there's not a spot of rust or cracks

on my z. the person who I bought it from was the orig owner and took good care of it.

and no I didnt buy jags that run, the engine

swap looks easy enough so I didnt think I would need it. it was easer for me to purchase the parts I need then fab them up.

[Modern Motorsports Ltd]

It certainly can't hurt to seam weld the panels/joints together and this does add a lot of stiffness to the car. A $30 book can pay off pretty quick IMO but each his own, I guess I just enjoy reading it even though it wasn't specific to my ZX it brings up numerous points many might miss and covers some sound engineering . If I was to buy my spacers I sure like JTR's minimal 'I' tower design in aluminum and it looks sweet IMO.As for your hood latch, I'm not sure if anyone is using MSA stuff here, hence my JTR question. The JTR book says it must be done, using the smaller remote coil dizzy does allow you to go back an additional 1/2" though. What position does the MSA kit place your engine in? You want at least a 3" setback IMO. It gets v. expensive to create an improved handling car otherwise. Look fwd to hearing your info on MSA.

[BLKMGK]

Depending upon how "stock" you want things to look th eJTR book is a must have. It details what to do wiring wise for things like the tach etc. It has some good comments on modifying the suspension for wider tires and better handling too. Seriously, it's worth the $30 IMO - I must have read mine a dozen times or more. It's fairly well organized if a bit "down home" but doesn't talk nearly enough about the T56 trans - you have to get the TPI book for that and even then it's not nearly enough information. I purchased both books together - the Z book I feel is a must, the TPI book less so (shrug).