Guest Anonymous Posted February 1, 2001 Share Posted February 1, 2001 Scca & Everyone, Today I got out of work early & went to a local u-pull-it. There were many Maximas there including one with the correct bolt on brackets. It's production date was 10/81. All the others had weld on brackets. I discovered another car with bolt on brackets that appear almost identical. It was an 83 200sx with a sold/live rear end. I had no tools with me so I couldn't pull it apart to see how hard they were to remove & to see if the would work but they sure looked right. I checked my Raybestos catalog & discovered that the 200sx used the same rotors as an 82-83 280zx. I was looking at all the Nissans and an 85 Maxima caught my eye. The rear rotors on the 85 Maxima are almost the same diamiter & thickness as an 84 300z and the Maxima had bolt on brackets for its calipers. After taking a carefull look and some measurements I'm wondering if the 85 Maximas brackets & calipers would work with the 84 300z's rotors. If anybodys heard or seen this before please speak up. These brackets & calipers were all over the place. Scca is the inch difference in diameter worth it on the rear? Do the rears have problems with fade? Also what e-brake cables have been used with the 280zx or 240sx conversions? Good luck to all in search of brackets & thanks in advance for any input. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scca Posted February 1, 2001 Share Posted February 1, 2001 a inch difference isnt worth it for OD but IF you can get a vented rotor then it is.. be interesting to see if nissan used that bracket on another car? any way that the part # can be reversed to see if it was in other cars?? BTW lots of the nissans use the same rotor offset but the calipers are different.. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotfitz Posted February 1, 2001 Share Posted February 1, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Glenn Richelsoph: I discovered another car with bolt on brackets that appear almost identical. It was an 83 200sx with a sold/live rear end. I checked my Raybestos catalog & discovered that the 200sx used the same rotors as an 82-83 280zx. I was looking at all the Nissans and an 85 Maxima caught my eye. The rear rotors on the 85 Maxima are almost the same diamiter & thickness as an 84 300z and the Maxima had bolt on brackets for its calipers. After taking a carefull look and some measurements I'm wondering if the 85 Maximas brackets & calipers would work with the 84 300z's rotors. If anybodys heard or seen this before please speak up. These brackets & calipers were all over the place. Good luck to all in search of brackets & thanks in advance for any input. Glenn I mentioned the 200sx before, but I haven't looked at any and no one spoke up. The brackets I have at the "new" machine shop are off an '88 Maxima. It is a flat bracket and I believe all the FWD Maximas in that year range had the flat bracket. It is a bolt on, but the axle opening is to small. Making it the right size won't take much work, for a machine shop. The caliper bolt pattern is right and the bolt pattern for the housing is right(just at a different angle(40* from horizontal) and from center of housing to center line of caliper bolts is right for the '82ZX calipers. Basically, everything is perfect except there is no offset(which brings up the 300ZX rotor) and the housing bore size(minimal cost to open up). I got the quote from the first machine shop. $85 per bracket to adapt it to the right offset and to open up the bore size. Then he hit me with the pattern cost.$300, to make sure the calipers would be in the right spot. I had to explain to him how he could take the new ear and bolt it to the old one, then tack weld it in place at the bottom, then cut the old ear off and finish welding up the new one, quote"oh, yeh, that would work". And save me $300 dollars sir! I just grabbed my stuff and left after that. I then went by another machine shop and he will have me a price tomorrow. He plans to reuse the old ears, graft the offset to them and weld them back on. Sounds great and shouldn't cost nearly as much. I keep everyone posted. Someone go out at look at some of these 200sx's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 5, 2001 Share Posted February 5, 2001 Well I went bake to the bone-yard today & pulled the 200sx apart only to find that the brackets are similar but the offset is .75 instead of 1.25. The 10/81 Maxima also seemed to disappear. Man im glad I bought these brackets a while back. Good luck to all. Glenn [This message has been edited by Glenn Richelsoph (edited February 04, 2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotfitz Posted February 5, 2001 Share Posted February 5, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Glenn Richelsoph: Well I went bake to the bone-yard today & pulled the 200sx apart only to find that the brackets are similar but the offset is .75 instead of 1.25. The 10/81 Maxima also seemed to disappear. Man im glad I bought these brackets a while back. Good luck to all. Glenn [This message has been edited by Glenn Richelsoph (edited February 04, 2001).] I take it that the 200sx all went together just like the maxima's do. Pulling the stub axles and all. Did you go ahead and get them? I was just wondering about some info on them. Don't suppose you could take some measurements. I thought the maxima brackets had a 5/8's offset(from outside face to caliper bolting face). Atleast the ones that are needed for the 280ZX rotor w/ '82-'83 ZX/200sx caliper. Am I mistaken? Are we talking about a different setup now? I just might be willing to take these off your hands if you don't need them. Assuming you did get them from the yard. I think I need to take a look at some of these 200sx's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromio Posted February 5, 2001 Share Posted February 5, 2001 So, wait, in order to get the brackets off of the Maxima, you have to pull the stub axles? Ugh. I mean, it obviously makes sense, it's just that that's a pain in the ass. How do you remove that nut without an impact wrench? I can see the drawing of the procedure in the shop manual - it just looks fictional. Especially out in a muddy salvage yard. I'm thinking it might just be easier to make a bracket. I wasn't going to do rear disks just yet, but I discovered that one of my drums is cracked. Plus, everything's apart right now, so, it just makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotfitz Posted February 6, 2001 Share Posted February 6, 2001 quote: Originally posted by jeromio: So, wait, in order to get the brackets off of the Maxima, you have to pull the stub axles? Ugh. I mean, it obviously makes sense, it's just that that's a pain in the ass. How do you remove that nut without an impact wrench? B] I totally agree. Doesn't sound like much fun to me either. After I pulled my Z stub axles loose using a 2' cheater bar AND the floor jack handle on that, I managed it. Doing this without rear brakes was challenging, but I was successful. I thought of an easier way. I was already planning on replacing the wheel studs. Using a ratchet on the nut, up against the control arm, you can use a pipe between the wheel studs. A pipe with 2 holes drilled into it would be safer, but you do what you gotta do out in the yards. With a long enough pipe the leverage would be great enough to break them loose easily and the car body wouldn't be in the way as much. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm still looking for these brackets and plan to do it this way. I'm out of money to fabricate them right now anyways, but I could get a credit at the yard with no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 6, 2001 Share Posted February 6, 2001 Spotfitz, The 200sx has a live/solid rear end in it. The 4 bolts that held the bracket on also keep the axle in place. I removed those bolts and the whole axle slid right out. The problem is with geting these brackets off the axles due to the pressed on bearings on the inboard side of the bracket. After seveal good swings of my 48oz hammer It seamed that a press would be required. I didn't buy these because I already have the right brackets but this thread had me curius. By the way I used a similar method you mention to pull the brackets of an early, 79, Maxima. Those should work but use the early style 280zx rear brakes. The method worked good but removing the nut was the easy part, getting the stub axle out with the slidehammer was a PITA literaly. Thats where I landed when it finally came out. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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