Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted May 7, 2001 Share Posted May 7, 2001 Well having finished my degree now I got this one month off till I start my new job. Ann said she'd get me the headers I've been wanting for my upcoming Bday I was quite stoked Now I need to confirm with rewarder (havent' talked to them since last fall/summer) about ease of plug acess. As well I need to measure up my block/engine bay dimensions for a few custom bends especially on the drivers side/steering issue. Still somewhat undecided on whether the headers should be brought out and around the steering shaft OR if the steering shaft should be sectioned/U jointed/tied to fenderwell so the header can be brought down tight to block. I figure either mod is a one time thing and as I'll want my exhaust closer to my frame rail than oilpan anyhow to clear oil filter (and possible T56 slave later on) that I may as well have headers brought out and down by the rail.....comments/ideers? It's the welding required for the steering mod that has me leary as I can't do that myself and steering 'joint' kits are pricey AIR. Anyone know exactly what parts I'd need and approimate cost? one extra steering shaft with stock Ujoint from a parts car and a sperical tie rod with ID to match OD of rod with tie rod attached to inner fender?? .....thanks in advance for all thoughts and ideers.... PS in my current setup headers are bent outward about 2" to come outside and then drop down between steering shaft and inner fender. Anyone have experience with larger tube headers and plug access? Any key q's to ask rewarder or stipulate to be customized? Oh yeah.....I'm debating b/t 2.5 or 3" collectors 3" would just be #1 on the kewl factor I'd think but may prove troublesome to fit and compromise a properly sized Y pipe to mate with the rear single pipe. (dual 3" Y to single 3" is quite a reduction and not a lot of 3.5" pipe around or race mufflers for decent cost....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest needwaymorespeed Posted May 8, 2001 Share Posted May 8, 2001 ross cant remember are you a zx or a z? think zx If its a z Id go with S$W long tubes for the added power. for max power 3inch collectors are better for 1 and 3/4 primariies give the gas more room you could neck down to 2.5 exhaust pipe pretty close to the collector. I talked to reward headers a couple of times-each time they were walking out the door to a rod show to show there wares so didnt have a chance to realy answer my question they seemed nice enough though. I called up the third time and they put me on hold after 20 minutes hung up called again a 4th time a different day we talked for 5 minutes, then I was put on hold again after 20 minutes i hung up!! I was trying to get better measurements on there headers to see about my clearance issues I guess it was too much work for them to measure them?? he did offer to sell them too me have me mock them up then send them back with pictures and measurements to change them if needed"I THOUGHT THAT WAS COOL" Anyways after the 4th time I called up s$w headers talked to them on there long tubes they answered all my questions and are building mine for me with the collectors angled down 5 degrees from stock location so that I dont have to bang my floorboards in. S$W are very professional and helpfull and willing to go the extra mile. I guess the morale is dont call reward headers on a friday or thursday they seem to have rod shows to go to try them on wed or tues im sure theyd do a nice job I just got frustrated with them Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted May 8, 2001 Author Share Posted May 8, 2001 Thanks for the info. Mine's a ZX. No desire for long tubes here. Don't recall all my reasoning on that but it involved a lot of discussion with long toothed friends/rodders and dyno'd combos pros/cons and decided their was little to no gains by long tubes for my setup (not to change this thread). Too bad rewarder wasn't more receptive when you phoned (as I'd like more direct feedback ). I got good airtime each phonecall. The offer to send them out and measure/mock up sure sounds good! and then they'd produce your 'custom' set and your extra cost is the shipping each way of the 1st set? He gave me measurements on the phone of header to block measurements in a few locations (wish I could find them now!) and I was going to measure mine the same giving him an 'envelope' of room to work within. I too was wanting the tubes angled back on drivers side (tight to starter on pass. side so only a minor angle their maybe as you state). Good point on reducing 3->2.5 as Y pipe progresses, hadnt' thought of that..more $ in system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 8, 2001 Share Posted May 8, 2001 Hey Ross. I have Headman Block Hugger Headers in my zx, and just had the collecter on the driver side, modified and relocated down around the steering shaft. This won't be as much as a problem now that I moved the engine back another 1.5 inches. I didn't do it, but had someone do it for me. I have pics somewhere, and will find them after my last final on wed, and send them to you if you want. sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted May 8, 2001 Author Share Posted May 8, 2001 quote: Originally posted by ellobo97: Hey Ross. I have Headman Block Hugger Headers in my zx, and just had the collecter on the driver side, modified and relocated down around the steering shaft. Sure Sean, I'd love to see the pics. Once we see how things can be modified it helps envision our own plans Rewarder offered to make them for me and ship them uncoated to me, then I can alter however....add pipe and mandrel elbow on bottom etc and ship back for them to coat (they won't take the coating cost out of the header and let me get them coated locally). Undecided as of yet...if I see your pics and can give them more precise info it'll help. I dont' see how you saying moving your engine back 1.5" made the header alteration 'less' necessary? Moving my motor back places the header further back and also increases the distance from engine block to steering shaft, thus header has to be bent/wrapped further toward inner fender to come around the steering shaft and drop b/t shaft and inner fender. Is yours routed differently? Look fwd to pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest needwaymorespeed Posted May 10, 2001 Share Posted May 10, 2001 Thats great they were so responsive to youre calls,Im sure theyll do good. yah I was real on the fence on the long tube versus short but fell toward the long tube side -hope I dont regret it. Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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