i was just saying what i have learned and seen owning a 1jz mk3 and building a 2jz mk3 right now(which im only doing because i want to, and want to go for big power) and diven the 2jz mk4, and i agree with the quote below, the 1jz is more of a smoother motor and with the 2jz when the power comes in hold on, thats why i said that. the 1jz have only started gaining popularity in the us in the past 2 to 3 years, thats why you only started hearing alot about it now. most people do drag and not track, but dont get me wrong i like the 2jz easier to build power and everything from but i also like my 1j and it has plenty of torque. stock turbo's spool pretty good and and small to medium size turbo, but if you go larger turbo thats where they extra displacement on the 2jz comes in. and the bandwagon jumpers did the same thing going from the 7m to the 1jz , if you read you will also find that alot of them and doing that for the aftemarket support and ease to find parts. They are both great motors, decide what you want to do and chose your motor from the up to about 700-750 hp either motor will do, after there id say 2jz.
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ah this one again. i think the 1j and the 2j are amazing motors. but i do not belive that the 2j is superior to the 1j, if anything the 1j has a few things over the 2j. First off yes the 2j head was shown to flow 10% better than the 1j head, however when you take into account that the 2j has 17% more displacment.. plus the 1j head has a higher velocity than the 2j head. so basically the 1j head flows best on the 1j, and the 2j head flows best on the 2j, go figure Toyota engineering. Now the 1j has a better oiling system, the 1j revs much faster and smoother than the 2j, not to mention it has been dyno proven that a stock 1j can rev up to 10,500rpms with no issues, when the same guy tried it with a 2j, it got to 8500rpm and it spun a rod bearing. but fine you don t want to rev that high great, now stock for stock the 2j turbos can produce more hp than the stock 1j turbos even though they have been proven to be able to support 400+whp. The BS of a stock 2j having 40more hp than a 1j is bullshit. That is rated hp, hell over in japan the 2j was rated at 280hp and yet still ran the same times as the US version? odd. This is because of The Gentlemans agreement made by every japanese company in the late 80's stateing that you cannot rate your engine power over 280hp. For proof of this, a 1j with just a full exhaust will usually put down 300-310whp, roughly throwing the engines output to a 360-370hp range. with 1.5psi raise and just an exhaust your teling me that it gets a 100hp increase?? even a 7m with two cats cant even pull that off with a full exhaust. No it is more likely that the stock output rating on the 1j is closer to the 2j's output of 320hp. also the 1j has proven itself to hold just as much power stock as its big brother the 2j, 1200whp on the stock motor? sounds good to me. Personally i like the 2j, and was going to do a 2j bottom end with my swap, but after doing research i realized that the 1j is just as capable as the 2j for yes cheaper.
supraracer01