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ok so now i am second guessing myself. i could have sworn the front frame of a v6 pathy (the actual frame), mounts were both the same lenghth from the front of the engine bay. were as in my 2wd i4 hardbody, the driver side is some 4"-6" further back. Ok so are the i4 frames the same as a v6 frame between both the hb and pathy? or is the v6 hardbody frame different than the i4 frame? i thought i had it all figured out but now im not so sure. im confused. i think ima just start it and say what the hell ever, it'll go in there one way or another. lol. thnx for the input thou.

ok so they made a reg cab with a v6? never heard of it, but i believe you. ok so since they did i can go to a dealership and get a set of v6 motor mounts from a v6 reg cab hardbody and bolt them to the 300 block and it should set right in with out the turbo on right. and just making sure, the ex manifolds bolt directly on to the block when flipped?

take a look at your forth pic, the factory 300 mount bolts up to the front of the block near the timing belt. If you look at that pic towards the middle of the block you have a bolt stickin out of the side of the block. Would it be possible to relocate the mount or any other mount to that location to have it bolt directly to the frame?

also the v6 only came in pathys and excab hardbodys. mine is a single cab 2wd on the ka reg cab frame the driver side frame mount is set farther back than the passanger side. i haven't looked inside the bay of a v6 hardbody but on the pathy's with a v6 the frame mount and motor mount location is the same as the 300. So are you saying that the v6 hardbody frame and motor mount are set in the same spot as the ka, and all i have to do is get the mounts from one of them and bolt them to my motor and then to the frame?(with turbo out of way, of course). If that works then kewl but if that not the case, if you look at the driver side of the 300 block there are a set of holes towards the center of the block that is approx a quarter of an inch higher than the factory mount location, i was asking if with the turbo out of the way could i just move the 300 mount back to that set and bolt up?

alright, the 200sx headers came off of what year and motor? also when you said adapter flange did you mean just for the turbo/crossover set up or will i need to make one for the header to block aswell? or will they bolt right up? also what gasket did you end up using?

Put a new title for less confusion, sry. For starters for those of you who don't know what im doing; im swapping a Vg30et out of a 84 300zx into a 91 2wd hardbody. Ive gotten alot of info from you guys, yet im hear to pick away at your brain matter again. Ok ive seen some ways that people have mounted them in and if all else fails i will do the same but i just wanted to know if it would be possible to do it this way and if so what parts would i need to get. Ok first lets just picture that the motor is a n/a vg30e. With the turbo out of the way would it be possible to move the driver side motor mount that is connected the the front of the block to the second set of holes. i was thinking that the n/a and possibly the turbo vg30 might have been used in some cars (front wheel drive) therefore requiring the motor mounts to be in a different location opposed to the rear wheel drive vehicles having them placed far out front. It appears that they would accept the mount, but if it were possible to do this would there be any problems with the driver side being in the middle of the block when the passanger side stays out front? Ok next i believe it was a vg30 motor i was looking at but they were talking about a 200sx. Do the 200sx exhaust manifolds bolt right up on opposite sides of the vg30et block? What i was trying to accomplish by doing this is relocate the turbo from down bottom where (if motor mount mod works) the mount is to up top out of the way. So which manifolds would work to have the exhaust pointing forward on a vg30. i could have a flange welded in for the turbo or what not. and lastly would running the crossover pipe around front cause any problems? Id like to do as little firewall bashing and fabbing as possible but if i could swing it around front that would give me a bit extra room at the fire wall. Let me know what you think? YEA'S/NEA'S?

For starters for those of you who don't know what im doing; im swapping a Vg30et out of a 84 300zx into a 91 2wd hardbody. Ive gotten alot of info from you guys, yet im hear to pick away at your brain matter again. Ok ive seen some ways that people have mounted them in and if all else fails i will do the same but i just wanted to know if it would be possible to do it this way and if so what parts would i need to get. Ok first lets just picture that the motor is a n/a vg30e. With the turbo out of the way would it be possible to move the driver side motor mount that is connected the the front of the block to the second set of holes. i was thinking that the n/a and possibly the turbo vg30 might have been used in some cars (front wheel drive) therefore requiring the motor mounts to be in a different location opposed to the rear wheel drive vehicles having them placed far out front. It appears that they would accept the mount, but if it were possible to do this would there be any problems with the driver side being in the middle of the block when the passanger side stays out front? Ok next i believe it was a vg30 motor i was looking at but they were talking about a 200sx. Do the 200sx exhaust manifolds bolt right up on opposite sides of the vg30et block? What i was trying to accomplish by doing this is relocate the turbo from down bottom where (if motor mount mod works) the mount is to up top out of the way. So which manifolds would work to have the exhaust pointing forward on a vg30. i could have a flange welded in for the turbo or what not. and lastly would running the crossover pipe around front cause any problems? Id like to do as little firewall bashing and fabbing as possible but if i could swing it around front that would give me a bit extra room at the fire wall. Let me know what you think? YEA'S/NEA'S?

sweet, nice to see all that work paid off. yeah ill let you know whats up with the rear in about a week or two. something important sorta came up out of nowhere but i won't forget about it. ill take some pics of it and post them too just too make sure its the right one.

Thank you for the feedback. I think it might have been a bit easier if mine had come stock with a vg. But from what ive gathered it'll just be a lil bit more work, plus id rather have the pipe run over the tranny due to ground clearance issues. Oh and by the way i took a look at the rear end of the 300 and it does have the little vent fin things on it. ill guess ill post some pics when i get some of the work done. again thank you. and hit me up whenever about the rear. later

yeah i saw the one guy that did the sa swap in the rear with the 4x4 axle. But from what i hear they only had discs on the 4x4 axle. was just wondering if there where any indicators as to lsd or not. i guess ill have to take some vins to the dealer and see if they came equipped or not. as far as my 300 rear end im assuming since i have no indicators to it being lsd or not ill try to find out that from the dealer aswell. Ok so if there is no cross over pipe on the v6 pathy/hb then where on the body do they reconnect? Ive never seen a stock duel exhaust on one. so the exhaust set up from a vg30e and a vg30et in a 300zx as far as the exhaust manifolds are concerned are different than the vg's that are in trucks? is this crossover pipe in both turbo and non turbo 300zx's? or just on the turbo models for more exhaust flow to the turbo?

i also saw you are using a hardbody tranny from a v6 im assuming. Have you heard of anyone using the 300 tranny? if its the same like your saying this swap would be a cake walk in a stock v6 hardbody. Ok come to think of it why would we have to mod the firewall if the v6 vg is the same block as the 300? wouldn't the crossover be the same on both or not. never seen the back side of a v6 hb/pathy

i have no use for the 300 rear end so that'd be fine. im still a bit confused on the pathy rear end thou. i understand that the lsd version is a tid bit longer which i can live with. but ive been told that the lsd sa with rear rotors was optional and not standard. What year pathy would that set up be in and how could i tell the difference. Are you converting to irs? that why you've been out for a lsd 300 rear?

Yes i still have the rear end from the z. its still sittin under the car. And what was that about trannys? the z tranny is longer than the v6 hb tranny isn't it? i could be wrong but it looks to be about 6 inches or so longer. theres a place here in town that will make me a new one for 35bucks with my discount. didn't sound to bad. they just said i had to bring both driveshafts in so they could use the ends off of each. since you said something about diffs i was wondering if the rear axle from a 4x4 pathy was the same width as mine?

nice set up, looks like you swapped plenums and relocated the turbo. Pathfinder plenum? I think the maxima plenums look almost identical to the 300 except the inlet is up front i believe. You got any other pics as far as the mounts go? And was yours originally equipped with the vg? Did you have any problems with the crossover pipe with your set up?

ok, i'll hit you up soon. Im gonna start workin on setting the motor in and dealing with the firewall to begin with. Im with you on the bashing so i guess ill pull out the body saw hehe and do a lil firewall fab. Not sure on what im gonna do yet about the mounts but thank you very much for the input. i think ima go ahead and try the solid mount idea and see where that gets me.

or would it be possible to use a driver side mount from a v6 hardbody?

ok i see that the passanger side stays the same. the driver side on the other hand im still confused about and concerned aswell. Im not sure if my wording is correct so correct me if im wrong. on the driver side of the 300 block, the metal bracket appears to be unchanged. You removed the bushing thing inbetween it and the frame. Wouldn't that put alot of stress on that mount that is welded to the frame due to the other side being able to move slightly? also what exactly was welded to the driver side frame? is that a bracket like the one connected to the block just upside down to accept the bracket from the block? or is it from the subframe of the zx? Is there clearance to add the bushing inbetween the two if the welded on mount was moved down a little bit?

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Hello all! Im new to this forum and i guess im here looking for some help on my swap. Ive been doing my research on the swap for about 3months now and have found some info on it but not enough. Ive found only three people who have done the Vg30et swap into a hardbody and only two of them have i seen pics for. (1) Purple Dinosaur, (2) NismoPu: which i think his was a 720 (3) and this guy with the sn Phram1 on another site. I guess what im getting to is if you guys have any useful info id greatly appreciate it. I currently have: *91 reg cab ka24e manual (already pulled motor, tranny, harness out) *87 300zx turbo vg30et manual (already dropped subframe with motor, tranny, harness, driveshaft, ecu, basically everything from the seats up) (correct me if im wrong on any of this plz) (and keep in mind i know little to nothing about turbos) Ok so far ive heard from Purple that the motor itself will drop in with the use of the 300zx mount on drive side and modifing the passanger side mount. Ok question? Im pretty sure they didn't produce a reg cab with a v6; so assuming there wasn't the 300zx motor mount will bolt directly to 4cyl frame? Also he said something about flipping and welding in the passanger mount. Would this be telling me to cut the mount from the frame previously occupied by the 4cyl and weld in the subframe mount off of the 300zx? Ok next ive come to the conclusion from everyones input that the firewall will have to be modified due to the rear cross exhaust which i had been wondering about when doing some approximate measurements of the engine bay and donor motor. I plan on using the 300zx tranny which i think Purple had used prior to his auto tranny. My question is will any modification be needed to the fire wall to accept the 300zx tranny? It appears that the bellhousing on the 300zx is slightly larger than the hardbody bellhousing, but that was just with me eyeballing it. Also the 300 tranny is obviously longer than the hardbody tranny. Im assuming a new tranny crossmember is in order but my question is how far back if any will that put the shifter? I plan on eventually putting bucket seats in the truck, but for the time being will it work with the bench? Is it a comfortable shifting experience or would i have to become a contorsionist to shift the thing? Last question. On the firewall up near the hood where the hard brake lines are, will the plenum clear them and firewall? Phram1 said something about he had to use a maxima plenum with the intake piping up front to clear. While i see Purple with the stock plenum still on? Ok next is concerning the turbo. By just looking at Purple's pics and the lil bit of info ive seen on his post he has the exact set up as a 300zx turbo in the truck. But Phram1 insists that the turbo set up will not work in the truck. Ok Purple said something about having to relocate the wastegate into the wheel well. Ok looking at the turbo setup itself the wastegate would be on the exhaust side correct, and the actual turbo would be the part that has the aluminum finish look to it containing the vains? Ive never really took one apart so im not sure if the other has vanes in it or not. Would anyone have pics of relocating the wastegate and not the "turbo"? ive never seen the two components apart from eachother. What problems would i run into trying to do this? Any extra parts i would need to get? Phram1 said it was must to relocate the complete turbo set up to the top of the engine bay? Would doing this require me to route exhaust up into the engine bay and then back down? Id rather do Purples set up but im not sure on which would be easier, along with more pro's than con's to each. What would be needed for either? I know its alot but id like to get as much info as possible before actually proceeding further. Any info would help? Anything i should look out for problem wise when doing the swap? thnx