Len168, I thought it was Mudge who made the "pimp value" remark, not you?
Where I come from, the word "pimp" is a pejorative, so in my mind it kind of shows disrespect to what I think is a great piece of engineering from a company that was quite small but very brave when they made it. I feel like I should defend O.S. Giken against this. Someone needs to stick up for them! Those "$12,000" quotes from the Honsowetz book need to be put into perspective for both the Dollar / Yen exchange rate of the mid 1980's and the Japanese economy at that time.
My personal experience of this conversion is that I have passengered in a car equipped with one, and was around a group of people in Japan who were using them.
When I was living in Japan many years ago, I was involved with a group of people who worked in a tuning shop there. They used two of these heads in "company cars", and one of them was a 3 litre conversion used with a pair of KKK K26 turbos. That was quite an impressive car for 1986. Personally, my taste is more "old school" and I prefer old cars with carburettors - but it was fascinating to see the ingenuity and dedication of the tuners at that time. What they learned then stood them in good stead for when the RB26DETT came out in 1989. It could be argued that Nissan themselves learned a lot from the Japanese street tuning wars of the late 1980's, as they still continue to do.
Some years back I was also involved in trying to persuade O.S. Giken to make another small production run of them, which they did not want to do. I don't blame them, as its doubtful that they made any profit at all from the original runs of either the 6 cylinder or 4 cylinder versions. They are doing very well with their current range of Clutches, Flywheels, Gear kits and Pistons. They also developed a 3-litre conversion for the RB26 engine, which I think was very brave. They are a much bigger company now than they were when they designed and developed the TC24-B1 and MA11 heads........
Len168, I think you might be interested to see a picture of that twin-turboed TC24 ( if you send me a PM with your e-mail address I can send some to you ). That was one crowded engine bay.
I have often "dropped in" to the HybridZ site as a casual visitor, but Ron's original post prompted me to join up as a member. I thought it was a debate that I could contribute to with first-hand knowledge. If that is not welcome then I probably made a mistake by doing so.
Sincerely,
Alan T.