BLKMGK Posted October 27, 2001 Share Posted October 27, 2001 Umm, sit on the front bumper and see how far it drops. That added 100lbs isn't just on the front of the car either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 i feal dumb now haha why dident i think of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 I donno being to low with a V8 car is asking to scrape something IMHO. The pan is below the crossmember, the closer the pan is to the ground the more chance it'll whack something, and that also brings up exhaust which will have to be some kinda tucked up to not scrape on something. Thats the biggest issue I have with the swap at the moment, taller tires and wheels would have been better in hind sight, but sorry I'm older and don't care for the all rim look *shrug*. To my eye they're just not different than ricers cars (no offense to anyone running these sizes, if you like em, excellent, just a personal opinion). I'll be raising mine again after putting in 1" lower springs that were supposedly higher rate and the car is slammed in the front with them in there. Why? Because despite JTR and everyone saying its 'only' 150 lbs more, 150 lbs is alot, if you think not, find one of your trim buddies (or maybe one of the older married women) and pick them up off the ground. I'm sure the JTR swap does produce a (arguably) better weight distribution, but when you have the weight of your buddy (or the older married woman) on the hood of the car, it makes quite a bit of difference on the car. Aluminum parts only improve that, but for us running cast parts (head, water pump), the car IMHO WILL feel a bit heavier handling, you notice it really when turning into a turn specially just off braking and turning in. The good news is you can go to oversteer in a heartbeat with the gas pedal. I donno, I think I'm going to keep raising it till it doesn't scrape things, and if it ends up being real high, I'll put on some Hella's on the front and call it a rally car. Regards, Lone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKMGK Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 One of the (many) advantages to coil overs is the ability to raise and lower the ride height. I've taken advantage of that a great deal, it really helps. So far I've not scraped anything but the taller wheeltire package has much to do with that - I've got decent ground clearance as a result. This IS something I wish I'd taken greater consideration of when choosing this wheeltire setup but I think it came out fine. Hrm, and my pan DOES hang lower than my front crossmember. It's got extra capacity and they did this by tacking an extension to the bottom of the pan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 Yeah, they're selling a armored oil pan for a SBC now (in jegs I believe), I guess it has some diamond plate or something welded to it, might be worth it for a Z. Regards, Lone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 You saw that pan too, huh? Jegs has it as the "Slamguard Pan" by TD Performance products #969-8910 SBC 1958-79 Drivers dipstick $116.99 (not a bad price). They also have them for newer engines at the same price. Might be really good for a HybridZ IMO. Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pparaska Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 I'd rather buck up for the shallow Canton pan. Yes, as Kim pointed out a week ago or so, the low pan height is a significant drawback to the JTR setup with a lowered car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 haha i am going to try and keep stock shortend springs when i put the motor in this summer what are the odds of the front of the car going bam and siting on the ground will the stock springs hold the extra what 100lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 'guards' can be welded on the bottom of your crossmember to protect collectors or oilpans from debris/rocks at speed...does nothing for very slow speeds (ie. speedbumps/curbs) but then I don't think a heavy plated pan will save the day at low speed if you high centre anyhow. A piece of HSS cut on an angle and welded in line with lower points (ie. collectors) make great guards from objects at speed. Crossmember isn't a bad thing to bump compared to engine IMO. That canton was very beefy....not sure if it was aluminum or steel? finish made it hard to know...I guess I haven't had the desire to drop my car too much and neither has my dad. 16" and larger rims fill it out nicely without going so low. Granted the 'low' ones look great but I know I couldn't drive them thru the speedbumps/roads/traintrack bumps I encounter locally. Now if I lived in N. California (roads seemed gret to me) or Oregon I might build a real groundslammer My dad's ride can't go lower simply due to his exhaust clearance of about 3-3.5" and he's not 'slammed' by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted October 29, 2001 Share Posted October 29, 2001 Speaking of ground clearance if you wanted to go low like I do couldn't you get a custom low profile pan? I'm not sure if its been done but just a thought and back to the stock springs subject. Correct me if I'm wrong but you should get beefyer springs to handle the wieght. I'm sure you could go with the stock but handling would be better if you had correct springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pparaska Posted October 30, 2001 Share Posted October 30, 2001 Canton has a pan that is (I believe) 6.5" deep. It's very difficult to go shallower than this with a wet sumps system with good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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