Guest Anonymous Posted December 21, 2000 Share Posted December 21, 2000 Kinsler surge tank 'kit' - $500 and change depending on size, etc. Tank alone - mid-$200 range. The 'kit' consists of a tank and some doo-dads, most notably a spring loaded check valve that keeps the surge tank pressurized to a few psi. That's an expensive ass check valve! Their tanks are either 3 or 4 inches in diameter and 8-12 inches tall. I think it's time to find some scrap aluminum and cut it up and make my own ^@#(*&$@#&*@#$ surge tank for $50 and a coupla hours of work. Perhaps a cheap fuel pressure regulator to keep the tank pressurized to a few psi or so? ------------------ Morgan http://z31.com/~morgan/s30 http://carfiche.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scott Posted December 21, 2000 Share Posted December 21, 2000 Morgan,nothing to add, just laughing at your topic header. I can't tell you how many times I've felt the same way! JS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 Morgan, Are you using this tank for an overflow tank or as a reservoir to feed the fuel pump? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 OWWWWWWWWW! I need to go this route too... and OW! OW. OW. Well no way I am going to buy one anyway... I'd sonner keep my tank more than 3/4 full all the time. Morgan, keep posting what you find out, I'm finding it useful. I should be going through the same thing in about 2 months. ------------------ "Gimme Fuel, Gimme Fire, Gimme that which I desire" -Metallica Drax240z 1972 240z - L28TURBO transplant on the way! http://members.xoom.com/r_lewis/datsun.html http://members.home.net/drax77/newpage.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimZ Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 quote: Originally posted by Morgan: Kinsler surge tank 'kit' - $500 and change depending on size, etc. Tank alone - mid-$200 range. Sorry that didn't work out - I knew about the price of the tank - like I said, they aren't particularly cheap. Didn't know about the ~$270 for the rest of it, though - I guess I figured that you would be able to come up with the rest on your own. They were competitively priced for the pump and regulator that I bought (maybe not the absolute cheapest, but close enough for the expertise that they offered), and I have had good dealings with them in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 How about one of these little guys (1-gallon)? about 95.00 at jegs? Have to figure out how to pressure it, but might be cheaper and less hassle than fabricating one. Lone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 can't you locate it flush w/ the bottom of your tank or lower? Don't see why the need to pressurize it, OE VW unit's and the homemade 12oz. reserve tanks as per JTR etc work fine. Unless I misread and their's another purpose to this other than to just keep the fuel pump/motor supplied under a slosh/long sweeper etc?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 I'm using a home made unti per the jtr book that holds about a quart. It has worked great and will allow me to run the tank bone dry. Total cost was $12 for the aluminum and a 6 pac to my buddy for the use of his tig. I hope this is what you guys are taking about, if not just ignore this old guy. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimZ Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 quote: Originally posted by Ross C: can't you locate it flush w/ the bottom of your tank or lower? Don't see why the need to pressurize it, OE VW unit's and the homemade 12oz. reserve tanks as per JTR etc work fine. Unless I misread and their's another purpose to this other than to just keep the fuel pump/motor supplied under a slosh/long sweeper etc?? The idea behind pressurizing the tank is twofold. First, the return-style regulator (assuming that it's properly located) bleeds off any air/vapor that gets into the secondary tank back to the main tank. Second, keeping the tank pressurized greatly reduces cavitation at the high pressure pump's inlet, and is generally beneficial to the high pressure pump's overall flow capacity. We were talking about a FI turbo setup here, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 Hey mark, when you made your tank, did you put anything inside it? All the tanks I'm finding have "stuff" inside them to help separate the air/fuel and stuff. I figure I can get some scrap aluminum and some bungs, cut it up, and take it to a welder to weld together and have one for $10 and a coupla hours of cutting up the aluminum - but I"m wondering about the whole baffling thing. So, is yours just a tank with nothing inside it? Yeah $200+ isn't all that bad I guess, but I just wasn't expecting that much for a round piece of aluminum tubing with some ends and fittings welded onto it. ------------------ Morgan http://z31.com/~morgan/s30 http://carfiche.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 Hey drax - I picked up some scrap aluminum tubing and plate today, just gonna make my own tank. I got enough to make 3 or 4 tanks, you want one? Figure $2 in metal, $20 in fittings, and $10-50 to weld the tank together, plus my time and it's pretty cheap compared to what I've found new. I using 4 inch diameter aluminum for the tanks and 1/2 inch npt bungs. ------------------ Morgan http://z31.com/~morgan/s30 http://carfiche.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 Morgan, Tank has nothing in it. The inlet is placed up high and the outlet is down low. The return line from the engine and the vent line to the main tank are also located up high. The fuel returning from the engine and the fuel going to the small tank (being pushed by a small mechanical pump) purge the air out the vent line and in to the main tank. It works great. I'll be glad to send you some pics if you would like. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax240z Posted December 23, 2000 Share Posted December 23, 2000 Um, honestly morgan when I consider in shipping and exchange rate its probably cheaper for me to make my own. Definately let me know (and snap a picture or two) of what you end up with. I was thinking about a hinged baffle inside the tank, but I am not sure that it would flow well from one side to the other during idle... ------------------ "Gimme Fuel, Gimme Fire, Gimme that which I desire" -Metallica Drax240z 1972 240z - L28TURBO transplant on the way! http://members.xoom.com/r_lewis/datsun.html http://members.home.net/drax77/newpage.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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