are all dealership parts guys pencil pushing morons?

[GrayZee]

I'm trying to do a engine swap (not a Z but a ford van) I pulled out the blown 351w engine and wanna drop in a 460. I wanted to get my hands on a van with a 460 so I could just transplant all the parts but I wasn't able to find one. Instead I got a smokin deal on a 460 out of a Grand Marquis. Now I just gotta fabricate some mounts right? No, turns out I need a different oil pan too.. (one with a sump at the rear) After having no luck finding one in the wrecking yards I decided to phone the ford dealer.. (this is always my last resort but sometimes the prices of old obsolete parts are quite resonable, SOMETIMES anyway.) I asked for a oil pan from a van with a 460.. and I get the classic question.. "what year" Seeing the I wasn't sure what year they made vans with 460's I decided to tell him it was actually a engine swap and didn't know the year "any old mid 70's van should do" To any of us Hybiders it's logical to think that if ford built a van with a 460 then there should somehow somewhere be the correct collection of parts to do the job and make it fit, right? Instead I get a 5 minute lecture on well, if it didn't come with a 460 then it probably won't work.. ect ect...

This is why I hate dealing with guys at the dealership, if the vehicle is more than 5 years old they have no idea how to deal with anything!

[blueovalz]

This is why I avoid at all cost telling them what I'm trying to do (with my "Supra rotors on my Z") with the part. I had one guy not even bother getting a part simply because he "knew" the fit was impossible. Its amazing how close minded some people can be. On the other side of the coin, I do have to give praise to the Hwy 5 "pick and pull" because the 3 brothers that run this place are always helpful, anticipating another story of how "this" part is being modified for "that" application.