Guest roydean Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 I figured i would try you guys first and see what ya'll had to say. I was wondering about the viablity of a mitsu 4G63 swap into a Z. I understand it would be difficult because the 4G63 as far as i know has only been a front wheel configuration I know its probably not possible but this is a "what if" type question b/c it is easy to get good power out of a 4G63 turbo. I pondered a whole drivetrain swap out of a first gen eclipse/talon. As i have recently had the chnace to acquire a couple of 4G63 powered first gen awd talons. As always thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stjoetalon Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Since I am into DSMs I have definately thought about it. But I figured I would go Big Block first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlasken Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Starion had rwd and 4g63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jay240z Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Gotta admit, sometimes I wish my Eclipse was a RWD setup... only for the reason of making it easier to swap into something else. My opinion, is that trying to swap an entire DSM drivetrain into the Z would be pretty futile. It'd be much less work to use the 4G63 in a longitudinal/RWD configuration; there'd still be some difficulties: 1. Transmission - check into the Mazda Mighty MAX trucks. I seem to remember seeing a video of one that had a 4G63T swapped into it. Word is that some model years' transmissions will bolt right up. 2. Intake - if you look under the hood of a DSM, you'll see that the throttle body point the wrong direction; towards the tranny. When it's in a RWD configuration, it'll be pointing at the firewall. I guess this isn't a huge deal, either. Just means you'll have to fab up a new manifold... or buy one. Try Buschur racing. So, those would be the major issues... however, when I think about it, the only reason to go 4G63 over something like the SR20DET would be (1)availability and (2) strength. You can pick up a 1G DSM anywhere (for cheap) and the early, 6-bolt internals supposedly are good for over 500hp. My take on the matter, the SR20DET is worth doing if you want ~300hp and an easier install. It's got an aluminum block, too (Light is Right). And, you won't piss off those purists (keeping it all Nissan). Of course, you'd still have to deal with the sacrilege of putting a 4 cylinder in a Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 its been talked about but the search feature on the site isnt worken. it would be a very VERY cool swap and it is do-able. it would prob be a tad cheaper then a SR2ODET swap. and the conguest/Starion i dont think were 4G63.. they were 2.6 4cyl.. same type of blood-line engine though. i thought i have some info on this swap but its on my other computer. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlasken Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 the conguest/Starion i dont think were 4G63.. they were 2.6 4cyl.. same type of blood-line engine though. i thought i have some info on this swap but its on my other computer. mike they came with 4G63 here in europe but maybe not in the us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 the engine code for the conquest and starion is G54B mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan0myte Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Already working on it, albeit not in a Z car. Mighty Max trannies bolt straight up, but are 250hp capable at the max (haha, max). You can also go with the Toyota W58 transmission, found in many 80's Toyota RWD cars. A guy in Florida somewhere makes a bellhousing to fit it to the 4G63. It's rumored to be gear soup by 350hp, altough Reg Reimer's MKII 7MGTE swap is putting down 400hp and no breakage yet. The ultimate trans is one a guy named Eric Plebani makes. He has that red/black Starion with the 4G63T swap done to it. What he does is takes one Mighty Max tranny, one Starion tranny, and creates a bulletproof trans for the 4G63 with the both combined. The Starion tranny internals are bulletproof, but the Starion tranny doesn't bolt to the 4G63. So he just rips all the junky parts out of the Mighty Max housing and puts all the Starion internals in it instead. With that combination, he was able to make 9 second passes over and over again without any trouble. The only problem there is getting a hold of him. I haven't been able to find any contact info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stjoetalon Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Last I heard, Plebani sold the Starion and 4g63'd a wide body Porsche. Just do an internet search and you are bound to find info on his old car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest etasDustin Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 yeah Eric P is definately the guy to hook up with on this one. He has done the 4g63 swap in the porsche, starion, and a pick up truck for sure. Also buschur racing has done the rear wheel drive configuration in two of their full drag cars. But it definately can be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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