Guest ON3GO Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 hey guys me and my dumb friend V8dats were talking.. i brought up how i want those 280ZX turbo hood vents on my Z but im getting a carbon fiber hood for my Z. how easy would it be for me to cut the holes in the hood to place the vents? and if i were to do this how would i make those vents hold in place? if i cant do this then what kind of shop can? im guessing a good body shop can. thanks mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToplessZ Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 That should be fairly easy to acomblish. Id use a die grinder with a cutting wheel or jigsaw with a fine tooth blade. Not to get off subject but where are you getting your carbon fiber hood from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 gonna get it from classicdatsun i still havent heard if he finished with the carbon fiber ZG flares im gonna buy.. i hope all is well over there. ok cool cool.. ill start looking for some turbo vents then. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anubis Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 first question? CF hood for what year Z? I'm looking for one for my 280Z and my friend 240Z. Please let me know if thats what kinda Z you've got the hood for. 2nd, I believe that you can poxy them in with something called Fuzor or something like that. Its 2 tubes of a mixing compound that once it dires its not going ANYWHERE. Some will break before that stuff gives away. I'd use the method as instructed above, then I would fit the vents in a use the proxy to hold them in. Should go for a clean job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 i have a 76 280Z. i see your near me, im in houston off of FM1960 by 45.. we should meet up.. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8dats Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 and what mike? make out?. i must warn u all of mike he likes to kiss guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 and what mike?make out?. i must warn u all of mike he likes to kiss guys blah ur just pissed because i have a nicer Z then you... mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8dats Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 hahahahha......................yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage-TechZ Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 ON3GO,..the first hurdle re;grafting in that Nissan NACA style duct is that it is molded in a very ridgid carbon plastic material and will want to dominate the space it takes up next to a larger plane. What I mean is before you cut ,besure to locate the natural exsisting curve of the form so the hood material won't have lots of give ,flex or wave. I'm assuming that your clearcoating the C/F as to enjoy the weave 3D appearance ? 8) If your going to color the hood ,youll still want to find the sweet spot to locate so you don't use too much heavy filler tring to make the mod fit ! Thats why I usually make independant molds of each componant AFTER a parent desighn study is finished and dedicated for the look your after,not later on completed part. .........I've done alot of this type of FAB so ask away ! ..............Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 yes ill be keeping it in raw carbon fiber look.. nice clear coat. how would i keep it from flexing when i cut the holes? i know one vent is larger then the other... what would be a good way to seal the vent on the hood also you think? thanks man mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-TARD Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I'd suggest using a roto zip style cutter, since it would be less likely to leave a rough edge on the carbon fiber after cutting. Lay some masking tape over the area and mark the lines you want to cut on the tape. The tape will protect the rest of your hood from scratches as you drag the roto zip over it, and to some degree will help prevent the carbon fiber from fraying as you cut. Sand the edges of the hole with some 300 grit sandpaper, and then seal the edges with some CA (Super Glue) Sealing the edges will prevent it from delaminating later on. Hope this helps a little, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage-TechZ Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Retro fitting the part is very possibly going to leave you with a certain amount of Tension around the area cut out (your warned ) But if you must,proceed by locating the Field or Area that best suits the Arch of the duct,mark with strips of 3/4 " mask tape So you can write on tape your cut line. Remember; your going to need to Make a jamb recess first that the duct will later rest in,and make the part removable and look professional while adding rigidity as well.the jamb will be molded directly off the backside of your duct.a beginners way,is to take thin plastic sheeting( Bag like thickness)and lay over the backside of the part,then mix your batch of glass in strips around the edges of where the mounting points would be,you can use a right angle hand grinder later with a 50 grit disc to clean up the edges later.essentially the area your creating will resemble an "L" or a small shelf for the parent part. Are you still with me ? ................Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Are you still with me ? ................Vince um i felt a breeze go threw my head.. lol. i kinda get ya but not really. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage-TechZ Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Well perhaps I should have started by saying;Like all things,there's a steep learning curve,and a lot of on the spot creativity working in this kinda' fab. But,these "Labor of Love " kinda' projects are what make all of our cars unique and easy to APPRECIATE ! (as the youth of our nation say;WORD !) I know,I know...don't you hate it when older guys attemt slang ! 8) If you can be patient for just a bit longer,I've got several hood designs in the works and the main molds are done !I just havn't had time to photograph and catalogue them yet !I've inventoried 50 yards of C/F and 200 yards of glass,and about a thousand dollars in Epoxy resins to prepare for a lot of hand lay-up. My intension was not to JACK this thread on sales of my hoods ! So if you still want to cut we can proceed ! ..............Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 well im all ears on your hoods... would love to see some carbon fiber hood designs. thanks man mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage-TechZ Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 In that case Cool ! Ive even got one that incorparates the early 80's Trans-Am fender side vents grafted onto a early Z hood,very tough looking ! But on your" Wants" for a turbo nissan duct, I was on that 8 months ago,thats one good reason I'm so familliar with the Arch concern. And yes it does look COOL ! 8) Bare with me and I'll work up some photo's as soon as I can. I have to travel to Sacramento and Stockton on the 23rd and then to N,Carolina. Let me know guys if there's any additional interest ! ...........................Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 sounds good to me, just keep me posted. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hey Vince, glad to see your working on some more cool stuff, im very interested in a carbon fiber hood, but want it to be exactly like the hood i have on my turbo car (dont know if you remember it or not) lemme know if you want to see some pictures of the vent setup i have on my car. the great thing is, is that it looks like stock from a lot of different angles because it fits flush in the hood, but as soon as you get up on it its "like woh" haha...umm....yeah. anywho, ive been working on some carbon stuff for my car as well, it sure is a steep learning curve, many a mold has been trashed along with the fiber and resin. P.S. do you have any really cheap sources of vacuum bagging setups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage-TechZ Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Sparky ! Yeah...your hood was cool..I remember seeing it at the San Antonio Nat'ls. But e-mail me a pix so I'll know how close my mold is to it,and I'll let you know what can be done ! ....................Vinny-Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc's240z Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I know that Les is having your CF flares made as we use the same fiberglass & CF guys to make our Dashes. As for his hood, it would be possible to build in a zx NACA duct, and you could talk to Les about possible options for his hoods too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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