Guest turdbo Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 ok i bought a z about a year ago and decided to do a project...it needed some body work done so i removed the fron passangerside fender and found this http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/201118559.jpg&s=x12 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2011180539.jpg&s=x12 i think it may be fixable but the passengar side door opend funny also, you can see where it doesnt shut all the way http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2011210961.jpg&s=x12 and diaganol from the dentage i also found a crack you cant see it because of filler it shows the general area http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2011200931.jpg&s=x12 what do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Juday Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 The last pic, the crack, is a body seem. Those are common and can easily be dealt with by grinding out the solder, welding and then filler. The other damage is more significant, especially the way the door fit looks. It could just be a bent window frame from an attempted burglary. You should really have it looked at by a professional with unibody experiance. I don't know how much money you have in the car so far but that looks to my untrained eye as a deal breaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest turdbo Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 well i plan on stripping the body and rubuilding from the bottom up ..i was going to try to find someone i could buy a passanger side subframe off of..and after it was stripped take it to a local body shop that has a frame strightner..also have them weld in the subframe...it was my plans but im still not sure if i should junk the car or keep it...its hard to find Z's without a rusty chassis the sub frame is a beat up but the rest of the chassis is in good shape no rust thats the only reason im even concidering keeping the car...but then again its a project car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj paul Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 i dont think its any bid deal. the front upper rail (where the vents get air into the cabin) looks messed up bad but its kind of hard to tell post a pic looking directly facing it. not the back towards the door but up front above the wheel. if its is bad as i thinkid prob just cut that side off and weld on a new one. or tube frame the front. i would at least just cut that part out and weld some new metal there. thats prob a better solution than doing the whole side. i know it sounds like alot, but this is my first car project and i basically had to do the same thing. and from the looks of it your starting to get some frame rail rot but i cant really see that either. i could be wrong on this, just put some more pics up and i should be able to tell ya paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest turdbo Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 here is the best i could do im not sure how much these could help http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2012343471.jpg&s=x12 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2012350867.jpg&s=x12 i plan on stripping the entire car and sand blasting it...the frame is in good shape just not the sub frame all the fenders align up right but ...the door opens weird thats the only thing that made me think twice about rebuilding the car...but i think it may be the door itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Here comes trouble Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Can not make head or tails out of your pictures. If you think the door is at fault............slap on another one for comparison................ If the fenders and hood align good--- no problem... IS the suspension screwed up or not???????..this is real important. drag the car to an alignment shop for a diagnosis before you drop all that money into it. If the car got T-boned resulting in the door mis-alignmet and the suspension is OK and in alignment.................the door alignment can be fixed.........................and yes, east of the Mississippi...rust free Z's are as rare as honest congressman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj paul Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 oh, that looks fine man. for some reason it looked way worse from those first pictures. you shouldnt even have to worry about those. the door is the culprit here, just get a new one, its hard to align something like that. i think dan has it right with the break in theory. its possible that the hinges are a little loose or something though. can the door move up or down at all? if so i think thats all you would have to do. but i doubt it.hope my rambling has helped you at all, sometimes i dont make much sense. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest turdbo Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 im really thankful for your guys help..now i know im not wasting my money buying another Z i'll buy a new door and have the alignment checked out, im going to do a write up on the entire car so i'll keep it posted on my progress -Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 First thing I would try is, roll down that window and grab the frame at the top corner where it sticks out and give it a good yank toward the inside of the car. If its just the window frame bent, that should fix that. I have a feeling it may have been crunched in the accident at the bottom hinge area, which would cause the top of the window frame to poke out like it is. That could be fixed by adding shims between the hinge and the body on the outside of the car. If you've ever hung a door on a house, you'd understand what I'm explaining.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 First thing I would try is, roll down that window and grab the frame at the top corner where it sticks out and give it a good yank toward the inside of the car. If its just the window frame bent, that should fix that... This is great advice and it won't cost you a thing. If Dan is correct about the possibility of damage from a break-in, this would do the job (hopefully) as long as you don't do damage to the door itself whilst tugging. The window frame is made from stainless and is pretty tough, so I don't think you'll actually break that, but watch how much you are torquing the whole door. You can also unbolt the frame and compare it to the otherside, once that is removed as well. Compare angles and see how much tweaking needs to be done. It would be a little more work, but you wouldn't hurt anything either or have to pay for more parts... Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest turdbo Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 i think the door may just need lined up because it doesnt match up to the body lines for example on the first pic its very easy to see where the body doesnt match and on the second pic the bottom of the door is sunken in about 1/4 inch ( dont mind rusty dog leg i have a replacment ) wich it sticks out about 1/4 inch on the top as you can see. http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2110225015.jpg&s=x4 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2110230950.jpg&s=x4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj paul Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 ....If you've ever hung a door on a house, you'd understand what I'm explaining.... i know what your talking about! good thing we could help you man. i know what thoughts and feelings were running through you when you found this mess. like i said before, just take these dude's advice on the door and dont worry about the dents. this isnt a structurally critical part of the car and the fender covers it so it doesnt even matter. while your there though, take a grinder with a wire wheel and get that sucker smooth. check out my pictures. someone once suggested a smurf whacked off all over the front of my car. lol. its just that i had this color paint lying around and it happened to be high in zinc content =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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