QWKDTSN Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 I need to upgrade my brakes this summer. You two seem to be in cahoots, at least with the rear disks, so this is for both of you. I have a hard time deciphering exactly what's needed and what's optional from the websites. So: I have 100% stock brakes, no SS lines or upgrades of any kind. I'm looking at the 240SX rear brakes and Mike's Stage II front package. I think I know what I need for the rears. I need rotors, brackets, SS lines, e-brake adapter, and pads. I have calipers already. What is the cost for all this and what am I forgetting? Cost out the door? Now, additional cost for 5-lug rear brakes out the door? Front brakes - what's required? I need the rotors, calipers, SS lines, and pads for sure. What else? Cost out the door? Additional cost to go 5-lug? If this is a waste of your time and the info is all right there for me, go ahead and let me know - but if there's a simple answer, please give it to me!!! thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 Sorry to jump in here, but Mike, are my ebrake adapters ready yet? Thanks, Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Big Business Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 Nion, I'm in the process of installing the exact same setup you are thinking of. I actually have the rears done, and on the fronts I'm just waiting on the brake lines. I stayed with the four lugs, since I didn't like the idea of using a transfer punch and drilling my hubs. I'm using a spacer/adapter to fit on honda-pattern and offset wheels. (see my earlier post) Anyway, the stage two kit for the front is pretty much all inclusive, except for the brake lines. Mike (I think, the fonebooth guy) includes the vented rotors, hats, required hardware for the hat, calipers and pads. You'll need to explicitly ask for custom brake lines so that you won't have to re-flare anything. You'll also need to drill out the existing threaded caliper mounting holes in your spindle, and install heli-coils for a 7/16 bolt, since that's what the caliper needs. That was the most nerve-wracking part for me, since screwing it up means you've toasted your spindle. For the rear, the only thing Mike doesn't include is a 20 inch replacement hard line to go from the rear junction to the driver's side. You can pick that up at any trak-auto or pep-boys type place. For the rear, if you are staying 4-lug, you can also get the rear rotor at trak-auto. Just get rear rotors for an '84 300zx, non-turbo. The only other thing you may want/need is an adjustable prop. valve. Mike can hook you up with that, too! Owen, Supposedly, Mike shipped me a set of e-brake dojiggers last week (supposed to arrive yesterday) so I would assume yours are ready too. Just geussing. Henry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scca Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 owen, i gave ross the ebrake extensions a couple weeks ago and thought you were getting them from him? if you want i can send you a set but i thought you were waitin on me to give to ross.. email me direct Nion, fronts in stage 2 are $650 (4 lug) if you go 5 lug you will want to go to stage 3 IMO, as #2 in 5 lug is $750 and you have a PUNY little 11.3" rotor and the smaller calipers- so far everyone who goes 5 lug goes #3 IMO worth the extra $200 ($100 alone is the larger 4000 series caliper) and teh other $100 is for the larger 12.2" rotor, and with 17" rims you NEED a 12" rotor to fill the hole rears 4 lug and 5 lug same pricing brackets are $155 pr lines and extensions $75 rotors $100 pr and you got the calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Big Business Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Mike, I just got the brake lines today. Thanks, but I have a question about them. Am I supposed to use a 90 degree fitting or somthing like that on these? When I screw them into the outlaw caliper, I don't see any way to keep the brake lines from rubbing the rims. It seems like I'd be better off with banjo fitting or something like that. Is there something that I'm just missing here? This is for the stage 2 conversion. Henry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy 77zt Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 there are adaptors that go from metric flare to #3 an.they are made by dana/weatherhead .there are adaptors for the calipers too.then i used an off the shelf 12" earls #3 steel braided line.earls makes some of the adaptors too.i used the metric flare adaptors in the rear but i have willwood calipers in rear so i just used an earls 1/8 pipe x #3 an 90 fitting on calipers.lines have been on the road for 70000 miles -no problems.maybe some of the guys that sell the brake kits could get the adaptors and lines and bag them up and sell line kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Big Business Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Actually, the hoses I have from Mike already have a 1/8 thread on the caliper side, and the correct metric end on the other. The problem is that they should have a 90 degree fitting on the caliper end, insted of being straight. (Mike e-mailed me, so don't go thinking that he's a bad supplier or anything ) Henry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scca Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Henry they are supposed to be straght into the caliper if you use a 90 then you need to use a extension as well as it will come straight up and hit hte tire more than likely the straight ones should look like a sideways question mark ? when installed the point goes into the caliper and it should curve up and then to the firewall mount, let me know if they are too short but i have used that length before and no issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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