SleeperZ31 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I was looking at StS a loooong while ago back when i had a Lt1 camaro (that engine SUCKS avoid it at all costs) but sts had a universal kit in 3 stages that was remote mount (their patented form of forced induction) and on a Horsepower TV episode they managed to use the kit to get a lt1 'bird from 220 at the wheels to 300, and it hit me that maybe this is what ive been looking for, I figure this, 1.the kit boosts at max of 7psi, the max of the old z31 turbos so maybe i could round up a old ecu (maybe) for the tune 2. remote mount is great in a way because its WAY easier to install, ive seen a 98 el-dorado ETC with said kit installed,(wow, close to 400whp) the fact that the intake tubing has to be run up to the bay means you get 40-50% intercooler effeciency with no boost loss AND underhood temps are kept minimal (plus ive got a awesome full-tube ceramic coat header setup i didnt want to trash for a vg30et swap) The bad, 1.kit is sorta pricy, lots o goodies yes like a remote mount oil pump(no oil pan drilling), but pricey... 2. remote mount might make building boost even laggier (im not a turbo expert so i wouldnt know, just a guess) 3. finding the right spot to mount the thing AND the air filter so as not to suck up 20yr old muck and road grime. all in all i like this idea alot, ive alread electric fanned, cammed, ported-polished,headered-cat-backed my car i cant think of much else to turn to for power, i just dont know how id wire the damn thing! my fuel system/pumps already upgraded BUT i dont know much about ECU's/piggybacking etc..so i NEED Z expert help on how to make my car recognize boost and compensate for it...IDEAS? its either this or i tryn fab up a way to use a xterra roots blower, but i want the upgradability and power output of the turbo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannji Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I will put this kindly, before one of the warhorses decides to weigh in = ) You need to do a search on this subject before posting. Even on this site, which will probably tend to lean against the STS system, there have been a couple of long drawn-out discussions about STS. The kit has no inherent boost limit, other than the normal limits any other turbo system has. 7 PSI is probably, but necessarily the safe limit for your engine without significant mods. The kit can be easier to install, if you actually buy the kit and install as intended, on the vehicle it was intended for. If you decide to build your own from scratch, it will be complicated, and have results that justify some of the stereotypes normally posted against the STS system. The turbo location means you are losing some of your thermal efficiency, and to some degree this is offset by gaining some charge-air cooling. To increase boost and net power, you will still need intercooling and/or alchy injection. The loss in power or efficiency from remote mounting does not have the hugely negative affect that many would have you think.... as long as the system is designed and installed properly. You will see boost come on slightly later than in a front mount... but countless knowledgeable and industry experienced installers have expressed shock and appreciation over how little perceived lag there is in a properly installed and tuned system. Your last statement leads me to believe you are in fact trying to build this from scratch. I don't recommend this... but at least know in advance that you can not buy just any turbo and expect this to work properly. go to the STS homepage and LS1tech and search for discussions... and read them all. If you manage to do that and still like the idea, you will at least know enough to not only start asking the right questions, but do it without getting jumped on by EVERYONE... now only the majority that don't like the system will do so = ) (and here is a suggestion... the first question you ask anyone who hates STS is "have you ever driven an STS-equipped vehicle?" that should kill the meat of the conversation.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperZ31 Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Thanks, i didnt think anyone here would have thought of a remote-mount turbo z31 with access to factory turbo-parts so i didnt search the forum, ill look more into it but ive previously located a complete vg33er supercharged motor and i might just try and use the setup from that on the 30e ive got, well see how that goes but thanks...i guess on large displacement cars like the camaros and 'vettes that use sts setups remote mount issues might be less of a problem than a 3.liter v6 and a cramped under carriage. hopefully SOMEONE could answer my previous posts on using a xterra supercharger but noone seems to know or care so i might be on my own..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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