Guest mtj71Z Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 hey guys, i was wondering if anybody knew if the 4 speed will come out the fuse box or is it long enough? thanks -mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 maybe not the fusebox, but a little past it forward of original shift area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 Well, it totally depends on where the motor is mounted in the engine compartment. Leonard (Fairlady327) has one of the best 4 speed setups I have seen. Most have the shifter coming out way too far forward--from the fuse box, but Leonard has his engine up tight against the firewall with a non-HEI disty and the shifter is just forward of the original location. Not as good as a T5 or T56 in the JTR position, but good nonetheless. Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mtj71Z Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 so if i try with jtr it will be too forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 Do you consider the shifter coming out from the non-stock location too far forward? The Muncie is so short it's going to happen that way, even in the JTR position. Use a non-HEI distributor if you go this route since it will buy you an inch. I hope this makes sense. Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mtj71Z Posted August 18, 2001 Share Posted August 18, 2001 yeah. thanks for the help..maybe i will just have to make a new console or something -mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 Don't cut that console! You can "adjust" the position of a side-mounted shifter on a Muncie / Saginaw / T-10 / Ford Toploader with a few fabricated pieces like this: Most likely you will be moving it backwards on the tailshaft to fit the trans hump hole in a Z body. Drill and tap a 1/4" steel plate to go between the trans and the shifter, visualise something like the JTR motor mount offset plate. The plate bolts to the trans tailshaft via 3 thru holes, and the (Hurst)shifter bolts to the plate into 3 threaded holes. The space between 2 sets of holes is the distance you need to move the shifter back. The linkage rods on a Hurst shiter have 3/8" threaded ends. You can extend the lengths of the linkage rods with 4 long bolts, heads cut off, or sections of all-threaded rod. Attaching the extensions (bolts) to the shifter rods with a barrel nut and a pair of jam nuts. Source: Casa DePot. I see this work every weekend in the short track race cars, and have never seen one break. The rod joints are in tension and compression in a straight line, it's not likely to bend either. When they build a car with tube chassis, Chevy engine, Jerico (Ford Toploader bolt pattern!) 4 speed, Pontiac Grand Prix body, they get pretty creative mixing and matching parts to fit. Aside: Did you know 67-73 Chevy Camaros used the Ford 3.03 (v8) 3-speed toploader trans? The stock Chevy bellhousing also accepts the Ford-patterned 4 speed transmission. Wish swapping T-5s was this easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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