Guest Anonymous Posted August 14, 2001 Share Posted August 14, 2001 Hi all, my precious '70/71 has bitten the dust (rust monsters ) and i was wondering what i should look for when buying a Hybrid? The one i'm looking at is a '73, has no rust , a chevy 302?? and a 5 speed. Also the driver's side floorboard has been previously repaired. Thanks guys! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted August 14, 2001 Share Posted August 14, 2001 Just stay away from the ones with lots of rust. That is the biggest issue. A motor that was not meant for the car on a rusty chassis is courting disaster. Get a rust-free car (or close to it) and you'll be miles ahead of the game. Nothing wrong with a 302 if that is in fact what it has. Mosre likely it is a 305 or even a 307 (ouch). A 327 or a 350 give a bit more punch. Good luck in your search. Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 15, 2001 Share Posted August 15, 2001 Hi, i just went over and it does have a 305 in it, there's some bubbles forming on the 'dog ear' on the driver's side and the battery tray has been cut out, tho, im not sure if it's been repaired. The batteries been relocated in the hatch and its been mostly garage stored. However the driver's side door looks like it doesnt close completely (sticks out a little). No rust in the hatch. It looks 'ok' to me but i think ill have to have a professional look at it. thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 15, 2001 Share Posted August 15, 2001 Forgot to add, he's asking 4 grand CDN (northern peso to u yanks ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted August 15, 2001 Share Posted August 15, 2001 Their was two V8Z's in the buysell/local cars last week, quite a rarity. Is this one of those? For $4k the motor etc should be running quite fine and rust free IMO. Rust free and nicely done as a 305 isn't hopped up near as easy. Much/any bondo on it? (magnet tests, fridge magnets can work well as they're not very powerful so not easily fooled, penknife beneath in floorboards/rails etc.) spare tire well...... Whereabouts in Vancouver are you? and is the car local? Previous repairs I don't mind, the older the better as that lets you know if it was done right if the repair has tolerated the test of time (assuming the car's been driven reasonable often). If the combo is good to go as is and to your liking then it sounds OK, if you see lots of mods it might be a lame duck as only the rust free part has significant value unless it has numerous other valuable parts. This is likely my most occupied week with some work deadlines and 'honey-time' but Saturday night or Sunday I might be able to hook up for a look see if interested...or come on down and help with the beer in my fridge so it doesn't expire [ August 14, 2001: Message edited by: Ross C ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 15, 2001 Share Posted August 15, 2001 I would be psyched if it were a 302 because that motor can pull so massive RPM's which would make it quite nice for road racing (assumng it has a proper install). sweet........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 16, 2001 Share Posted August 16, 2001 There was actually 3 hybridz in the last 3 weeks, and yes this is one of them It's the one selling in North Vancouver. The other one is a ford conversion in Hope. We took it for a drive and it passed aircare but its not currently insured. The motor idles just fine and runs pretty cool. Some of the spare tire well has also been cut out to make clearance for the muffler (i think). I'm pretty happy with the engine (for now) it has enuf torque for me to plaster a grin on my face I'm in Coquitlam, and would be happy to liberate those poor beers from ur fridge Thanks Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted August 16, 2001 Share Posted August 16, 2001 Jon, you've got mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 I hooked up with Jon today and we had a nice cruise to N. Van. and checked out the 305 V8Z he looked at last week. I put together a bunch of pics I shot for Jon to quiz you guys on. Jon's potential new V8 Z car Overall some pretty nice work has been done on the car but their are some questions raised that I'll let Jon bring up. we're not sure if it was just poor bodywork or if it's twisted up somewhat as some panels fit strangely with odd gaps. Both doors fit similarly with large front gaps but they are somewhat symmetrical and front fenders are fibreglass so that might explain that... -rear hatch as pictured does not sit flat...either hatch or sail panel is wrong -back edge of drivers door sits 'out' ~3/16" or less Jon can list the other pros/cons. BTW, great to meet another Z nut fast cars big brakes and fast......were enjoyed/appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pparaska Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 The door hanging open can be worn latch parts or mis-adjusmtent. Gaps in the 240Z body with non-factory installed fenders, etc. can run the gammot for gaps, etc. And the Fiberglass ones fit notoriously poorly, if you're looking for nice gas, etc. Heck, the aftermarket front steel fenders I have don't fit well - too much difference in the stamping to make them fit perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 Wow! that was quick, the pics are already up! Yes, we managed to bargain the car down to $2800 from $4000. Cons: - some gaps in drivers door and the rear - gaps in fenders (aftermarket fibre glass) - some small rust bubbles in driver rear rocker - small fender bender on the pass. side fender - little rust on underside of decklid - suface rust on pass. floor - headers too close to the slave cylinder - oil leak - fan shroud doesnt clear fan blades - needs new brake master (i think) - also it has fibreglass rear flares - decklid doesnt fit level, its on a slight angle off horizontal The car is a 73 240Z, with a chevy 305 and five speed. Basically already done with stiffer springs. I'm going to run the vin and bring it in for an inspection to check the frame out, cuz my main concern is if the frame is twisted. Also i contacted the person with the other car. It's 90% complete '72 240Z, has a SBC 327 (just built, only hour our run time on it) and the corvette 4 speed and the whole corvette rear end + suspension. It also has 4 wheel disk brakes and possibly a tube frame up front. Selling for $6500. Ill be checking that one out b4 i do nething .. Thanks Ross and u guys for ur help Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 $2800 Canadian seems like an awfully good price for a V8Z--it even looks to be in the JTR position, which is always a plus. As long as the frame is not bent, the car would suit me well for a weekend warrior--color is right too I hope the other one is worth the money that they are asking for it--if it's really nice with many upgrades, you'll have quite a decision to make--suffer, baby! Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 Hey Jon, I got word from an ICBC friend tonight that ONLY RCMP theft recovery cars get that door jamb tag we saw.......so beware and see what the ICBC 'rap' sheet says....He said swapping a dash would not require that tag....who knows as you can get varying individuals in these bureaucratic positions so the circumstances might vary but bewarned..... The 327 one sounds very promising.....why is it for sale so shortly after being built? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 Thanks for the heads up Ross Yeah ill look into the ICBC rap sheet when i run the vin. I havent seen the other one yet, i was feeling kindof sick after teaching my little brother how to drive! so i couldnt make it out to Surrey tonight! Dont worry, he wont be into making rice, only burning it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLKMGK Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 Hrm, the one with a 'Vette rear in it sounds VERY interesting. If nothing try to get some pics of how it was done for Scottie Overall the collisions and thefts wouldn't bother me so long as the car looked okay. However it sounds like the car might not be "okay" so be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 Ok, i just ran the vin and it turns out its had five claims against it. There was a collision in Oct 99, Jan 87, a comprehensive in Nov 86 and 2 thefts in Nov 98 and May 86. There's no details on the amount of damages on the collisions or ne details on the May 86 theft. But the most recent theft (Nov 98) the owner was paid $1752.70 as a cash settlement. The comprehensive was worth $394.59 for repairs. I still have to book an appointment to get it inspected and up in the air, we'll know for sure by then. In the meantime i can check out the other hybrid that's for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 Update, i just talked to the owner again and bargained him down to $2500! (About $1600 USD) On the rap sheet it says the thefts were FROM the vehicle not OF the vehicle. I havent seen the other one with the 'vette rear yet (couldnt get a hold of the guy) but im kindof leaning towards this one because the price is right, and i want more of a project car of my own. Hehe we'll see if i can get a camera out to take pics of the 327 Zee, just for all you Curious Georges [ August 21, 2001: Message edited by: Tempuraman ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted August 22, 2001 Share Posted August 22, 2001 Count me in as a Curious George! The price right as I noted earlier and I think this may be a deal. Side note: even if accidents are listed, don't assume the car has terminal damage since it has a clean title, yes? It may be the bargain of the year. Shoot, for that money I would like to drive the car for the summer. Clean it up some and sell it for more if you need to. Sheesh. Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 23, 2001 Share Posted August 23, 2001 Ok, i got hit with the smart stick as i was driving home from my graveyard shift. If I look at the 327 Zee and if its in really awesome condition, then it would be worth it to spend the extra money now instead of further down the line. And if I dont like either of them, i'm going to save my hardearned cash and wait for something better to come along (sometimes i forget it IS JUST a hunk of metal ) And then hopefully i'll be living happily ever after in Hybridz-land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 25, 2001 Share Posted August 25, 2001 Hey guys! I checked out the 327 Zee and it was a timebomb! Rust coming thru the framerails, engine compartment, firewall, and who knows where else.. The corvette rear was an awesome setup to say the least, the rear wheel wells were modified to accomadate the big centerlines.. Ill have pics of it soon I ended up buying the 305 Zee with almost no rust. We went to start the car and it fired up fine, but after a few minutes at idle it just died and wouldnt hold idle again???? White smoke also came out from the exhaust and valve cover.. blown head gasket? The owner came back after we left and he said it started fine tho.. Ross dont you be saying I told u so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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