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    Motorcycle Advice - 250R vs 650R

    in Non Tech Board

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    '98 YZF600R, first bike, pic from 2000

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    '00 YZF600R, 2nd bike, pic from 2005.

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    A friend from work's brother is selling his '95 or '96 YZF600R for $2500, which is a good bit less than the cost of SVs which I was looking at.

     

    Auxilary, what sort of mpg do you get on your YZF? I looked on www.yzf600r.com, and it seems to range from low and mid 40s to mid 50s. I'm just about all highway, 65 average.

     

    How are the ergonomics? It seems to be a more upright bike than most of the other 600s, a very good thing with the time I am looking at spending on the bike.

     

    Anything to check on the bike? Should I go to the dealer to get them to look it over and make sure it is in solid condition, or find a reputable independent shop to do that? Definitely want to make sure that the bike is good, a decade and a half machine can have a lot wrong with it.

     

    Thanks, just trying to get some good research done before going further.

    Motorcycle Advice - 250R vs 650R

    in Non Tech Board

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    OH YES, we did emergency braking for some time during the MSF course, they really wanted us to use both front and rear brakes to their fullest safe extent. Along with some very fun swerve / brake drills.

     

    I "want" to get a sweet Honda like a 919 or a VFR800 Interceptor, but considering this is my first bike, I am going for something lighter and more economical. Hence the SV650 / 250R / 650R / FZ6 dilemma that I am in, which seems to have been resolved down to the SV line.

     

    Any advice on where to look for bar risers for SV sports? Are such items made? Can the peg positions be altered?

     

    I have been advised that McGraw insurance is a good carrier, suggestions? How do they compare to say, Progressive or Geico?

    Motorcycle Advice - 250R vs 650R

    in Non Tech Board

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    The question I have is......what is your street bike experience level, if any? If your answer is none, start taking the bus or buy yourself a huge insurance policy! Just one man's opinion with 30 years of riding and racing bikes.

     

    Tom

    I took the MSF course and have been riding a friends bike around on the local residential streets for about a month, evenings, 4-5 evenings a week.

     

    I wish there was a bus sometimes, I'm 35 miles from anything. Gas is brutal. Tiny little development in the middle of nowhere, on a 2 lane highway.

     

    How much medical should I be looking at? A friend suggested 50K at the least.

    Motorcycle Advice - 250R vs 650R

    in Non Tech Board

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    Id say take a closer look at the FZ6, its an awesome bike all around and I get mid 40's MPG. Mine has alittle work but ive put quite a few liter bikes in there place on the twistys. Also I pay about 100 a year for insurance. Ive also got almost 30K on the clock.

     

    100 a year for insurance?? I assume that is just liability. What mix of highway and city driving do you do? I am almost exclusively highway, with a bit of back roads thrown in.

     

    Yea don't get either of those bikes.

     

    SV650's are really nice and make good transportation. You can take them to the track to boot. I'm assuming since your looking at those bikes you don't have much experience.. in such a case the sv650 is a great bike there as well, very easy to ride and still has lots of potential. They have nice torque and will feel better then a 600 around town. I like the naked version its loooks pretty sweet, especially the newer ones.

     

    Oh and don't buy new! Buy a used one and save several thousand dollars. Its prolly gonna go down anyway ;)

     

    I did some searching on the local craigslist postings, and trust me, I am not buying new. Think there have been more SV's sold than 650Rs, just looking at the number for sale.

     

    And yes, I don't have a whole lot of experience. Just about every new rider at work, who has bought new, has gotten an SV.

     

    Time to go off to the bank and see what sort of loan I can get!

    Motorcycle Advice - 250R vs 650R

    in Non Tech Board

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    Initially I was looking for an older bike, but after seeing what was being offered as 'running well, minor cosmetic' from craigslist ads, I've given up pretty much. Taped on turn signals, seats you can lift off, leaking break lines, the whole spectrum of what could be broken, was in fact broken. Plus, the used bikes that are in fact in decent condition have such inflated prices because of the gas price boom that it makes sense to spend just a bit more and get something much newer.

     

    Talking with the Kawasaki dealer, they said that their next shipment of 250R/650Rs would be in early 2009. Now if you wanted a cruiser or a super sports bike, they could definitely get you set there.

     

    So the consensus is the 650R. Any other possible suggestions?

    Motorcycle Advice - 250R vs 650R

    in Non Tech Board

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    The dealer in town is completely out for the foreseeable future of both the Kawasaki Ninja 250R and 650R, so this is pretty much a used bike issue.

     

    I am 6'1" and 265 lbs., would the 250R be just to little for me? The used bike prices on both are not that far down from MSRP, ~$3000 for a several year old, good condition 250R, $5000-6500 for a 650R. I do have $1500 in cash, and my credit is right on 730 from all four agencies. I would rather not get the 250R, and in a few months discover that it has no further interest to me, nor would I like to spend more than I need to, and get a 650R.

     

    Opinions? A good forum to ask this in?

     

    I did go to all the dealers in town, Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, and test sat on the relevant bikes. The SV650S has to great a forward lean, and I didn't really get into the SV650. The foot pegs were a bit odd if I remember right. The GS500 seemed ok, but if not a 650R then why not go all the way down to even better mpg and handling in the 250R? I really liked the FZ6, then looked into insurance, mileage, etc., and found that it was a super sports bike in disguise. And Honda doesn't seem to make anything to my interest. The 919 feels like a dream, but once more, it is a super sports bike in drag.

     

     

    Gas is killing me, and yes, I know it will take some time to make enough savings in gas to compensate for the bike, but I've had enough paying $4.69 a gallon for my Honda.

    Jeep 4.0 swap?

    in Other Engines

    Posted

    If you want unique, I doubt theres many Z's in the US with Ford 4.1 inline sixes from Australia.

     

    It'll cost mucho dinero to source and import, but the engine itself in aussie will be fairly cheap, it's shipping and sourcing parts that would be the pricey bit.

     

     

    But hey, look at the aussie ford website and see what sort of power you can pull from a turboed motor :P the typhoon has pretty nice power figures, and room to mod.

    Any quick links for those of us (me!!) that are to lazy to try and find said sites? :-D

    Another New Ride

    in Non Tech Board

    Posted

    It has a 4.2L V8, right? Any mileage numbers yet?

    How are you feeling about the MMI? iDrive is hated, and I'm not to huge even on touch screen GPS units.

    Come on, we need those pics!!! :D

     

     

    Oh, and yes, enjoy the ride!

    Thinking about buying a scooter...

    in Non Tech Board

    Posted

    I just was at the local Kawasaki dealer to look at the Ninja 650R's, and they are OUT. Not out of floor models, but no more '07s or '08s in the supplier wharehouse.

     

    And used bikes are going up in prices lately. Having to accelerate my acquisition of a motorcycle, I'm spending nearly 300 a month, but live out on a highway. No scooter out here ! :(

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