mobythevan
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I'll have to check tonight when I get home. I have all of the measurements in my notebook in the garage. I am sure it was ~20" though.
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ok, cool. Things are going very good so far. I figure four months of work on the rust. I don't have any other projects to distract from this so we'll see. got to replace floor pans, rockers, and rear quarters. I think i am going to do all of the passenger side first, then do the driver. that way the driver side frame will help stiffen the chassis while I have the floor pans out and the rockers out. think i will use the 1x3 inch tubing to stiffen the rockers as i have seen others do.
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This weekend I made all of the measurements and cut out the passenger engine frame rail. My suspicions were confirmed when I measured and found that if I use 2.5" tubing and align it with the fender, then the crossmember bolt holes are right at the outside of the tubing. You could fix this by moving the frame rail outward, but then it would portrude into the wheel well. To fix the problem I extended the width of the frame rail at the crossmember location and then built in the pocket so the bolts will still drop in. Supposing I would have just put a pocket in the 2.5" tubing, the bolt holes would have ended up with no steel on the outside to support the bolt. All of this was based on stock locations. My measurement showed that the width of the stock frame rail was ~3" including the lip in the fender well. The outside edge of the bolt hole for the crossmember was then ~.5" back toward the engine. Putting the edge of the bolt hole at the edge of the 2.5" tubing. You can see what I did at
Does this sound right? I double checked ten times, but maybe I missed something.
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On your web site, under rear quarters, the ZCalQL and ZCalQR and identical to what I got.
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OK, I see what the deal is. The fenders and rear quarters I got are the same as "the california Z" kit that showcars bodyparts sells. So anybody have this kit on their car?
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You have to get stub axles from an R200 to go into the LSD diff, then you can bolt up the u-joint halfshafts. BTW, those stub axles are different lengths.
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I put a quick picture of the stack of fenders on my website. I didn't have time last night to spread them out and take pictures. BTW, does anyone have pictures of their cars with these IMSA type bodykits. I saw one car in the members section but that was it. I am just curious to see air dam and tire types with these flares.
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Thanks for the pep talk. I guess I'll attempt to enter the ranks of z-nuts who spend too much of their lives trying to save a rusted shell. I did forget one necessity in the garage, a little refrigerator. It will be cold this winter if I have to walk to the house to get a beer. And if it gets too bad
oops, one too many
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I went to the junk yard today to get a couple halfshafts and I remembered the guy telling me back in Feb that he had some fender flares. So I asked what they were, IMSA. Turns out he has two complete sets for the rear and three front fenders. I figure he'll want a bunch so he says he will take $100 for a set of four or $150 and take them all. Needless to say, I took them all. Only had my camry, so we had to get creative to pack them in. That just cut a bunch off the price of my swap, since I had planned to buy fiberglass front fenders and rear flares.
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Yeah, I just hate to see the car go to waste. I look at this one as the learning vehicle for welding and bodywork. So I am at least going to start hacking on it. It is time intensive not money intensive, so if I reach the threshold of "ok, thats all the learning I can stand" and the car is not finished then.....
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ok, got my web page updated with pics of the rust. I know my web page format sucks, let me know what you think from the pics. Is this the typical stuff you guys have been dealing with?
Thanks
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That is the exact helmet I ended up buying. I love it, works great. The first project i used this helmet on was a stand for my wood stove. It is great to be able to use both hands and know where I am starting the weld. I paid $169 shipped for mine, it was new. Good deal on yours, I know you'll like it.
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what about unlimited products. they list two cowl induction hoods, pin on types?
Anyone dealt with them lately?
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On my 72 240z the worst of the rust seems to be where the body had been strengthened, such as right above the engine cross member bolts. Also where the engine frame and the floor frame meet at the firewall. These spots that appear to have double thickness material have holes over an inch in diameter rusted right through. Of course this just let the water splash from the tires and fill up the frame tubes, lovely. I'll get some pictures of this put up in the next couple days. I'm curious to start removing paint/coatings to see how bad the rust is on the rest of the car.
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Tim,
I was looking back at an old post when I said I was getting ready to replace my frame rails. That was back in Feb. You said you were at a similar point on your buildup. Well, now 8 months later you are starting your engine
and I have not done a thing Well, I moved this summer and had to do a bunch of things to the new house. I have accumulated a bunch of tools, $1500 worth (don't tell my wife). At the new place I have a 24x30 detached garage. I just finished insulating it and installed a wood burning stove. This weekend I am finally going to start cutting out those old frame rails. I am hoping by next spring to be firing off my engine, but I am going to need about $3500 to build it. So we'll see if i can save up that much money by then. Take bets and see if another 8 months go by and I put up a post saying I am just starting to replace my frame rails
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I bought the harbor freight compressor mentioned. I am very happy with it. It is much quieter than I expected. I wired my garage this year so the 220V was no problem. I am glad I did not get anything smaller, but I use it all the time.
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I don't have the answer to your question, but have one of my own.
I have a Weiand xcellerator single plane intake. I bought it before Holley took over several years ago. I would like to build the z engine with a single plane but I am not sure if I should buy a new one. Only save ~$150 by using the old intake. This one had an RPM range of 2500-6500 IIRC. I would like to run a set of AFR 195cc heads, 9.5:1 comp and the magnum 292H cam. The cam has the same RPM range. Think there are any advantages to other single plane intakes?? The runners seem to be more straight on this intake than the victor jr. I notice the victor jr has range starting at 3800. Thats a little high for what I intend. 2500 willl work good.
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I remember seeing ZR-1 at the vette shop a couple years ago. It was priced at 50K. It was perfect.
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Hey Jason, your engine build is nearly identical to what I am planning. Have you dyno'd that package?
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Does anyone own an Astro 8070 auto darkening helmet. This helmet seems to be very well priced at $90 with solar recharging, adjustable dark to light time, adjustable shade 9-13. Just wondering if anyone had an opinion on them. They are made by Astro Pneumatics. Function wise it seems identical to the hobart hood which is priced at $170??
Thanks
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I got the tranny today
Finally, now I can get the rest of my parts ordered and get going
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Well, for my first go at it I am going to use the origional half shafts. After I break enough u-joints I suppose I will try to have the shafts customized to use the 1310 series u-joints. If thats looks too exspensive at the time I will re-think my strategy.
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Just make sure you bring enough beer to last through the road trip
Seriously though, is their anybody in Colorado Springs that has a hybrid Z? I know there are several people in Colorado, but haven't noticed anyone from the Springs yet. If so we should hook up.
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Has anyone had custom halfshafts built to use chevy u-joints? Aside from the guys that have swapped entire IRS systems in. I guess the u-joint flange to the four bolt datsun pattern is the issue? Would need an custom adapter similar to the jtr driveshaft flange. Maybe it would be more expesive than just doing the CV swap, but it seems that if you were running 1310 u-joints on the halfshafts they wouldn't be breaking??? I don't know, but I will have to deal with this soon.
and I have not done a thing 
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Earlier this year I was able to get two Hobart Handler 135 units from weiler welding online for $400 each shipped. One was for my uncle. They were really good people to deal with.
Prices have probably went up since then.
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