[LT1 or LS1 (not a debate guys)]

cant find complete LS camaros or firebirds in my neck of the woods...they want plenty for it.

but ill keep look.

appreciate the honesty guys

thanks!

[Track our VK56 Z car progress]

cant find this anywhere your fb page

[LT1 or LS1 (not a debate guys)]

I've been lurking on this site for almost 16yrs....always wanted a V8 powered datsun.(To me they just belong)..But with life, career,travel....life...i've always put it off.

Finally decided to pull the trigger and pick one up .....now comes the issue of what V8 to go with.

 I'm very very familiar with the LS series motors, and how powerful/reliable they can be. but finding a good donor is sort of out of my range.

since i'll be attempting this swap myself....i kinda want to have the whole "donor" car there...where i can pick thru and grab everything i need/when i need it, which i wont get from the wreckers if i go the "LS" route...That's what makes the LT's so attractive to me!

i could even go with an LT from a Y body and start out with 300 hp...which is pretty healthy power for the S30 chassis( yes body is rust free)

 

 ultimate power  goals in the coming years is to make between 500-600hp and i'm not averse to boost.

 so what do you guys think?

 

stay with the easy LT choice or Go LS?

 

Then there's the question of Trans, the Datsuns a manual....i just think its a safe, fun can to go auto...(though i'd love the 5speed!) with the amount of torque and power vs weight of car, safety trumps.

 

choices, choices guys.....im open to and welcome all opinions.

 

Thanks!

 

 

[To Lt Or To Ls? Grumpyvette Please Chime In On This One!!]

so i think i have all the info i need then...off to the junkyard!

[To Lt Or To Ls? Grumpyvette Please Chime In On This One!!]

And in terms of power will i see the numbers im hoping for?

[To Lt Or To Ls? Grumpyvette Please Chime In On This One!!]

I'm in the market for another Z and this time i just have to go the V8 route. Question is which would cost me less in the long run? there is very little id be doing myself but the main swap would have to be done profesionally("paid for) so i'd need to gather all the right parts to get her done then i'd slowly build on her from there.

I'd be looking for around 400rwhp, of course with mods ...and to be honest with my leadfoot, that may very well get me into gobs of trouble.

 

So all this being said which would be cheaper/more "readily available"

and still net me that type power?...and LT1 or an LS1?

 

with the LT1 which year has the better motor and in what Gm vehicle do i source it from?

Same question as above for the LS-1

 

I would appreciate any and all tips

[pls help with information on shipping]

i'm looking to purchase a car and have is shipped to buffalo.........not quite sure where the car will be coming from yet but odds are it would be the west coast, my question is;

are there companies(reputable) that could do that for me and what about the rail system? how does that work.

i welcome any and all suggestions.

[PLS bear with me on this really dumb "overasked" q]

pls tell me what the difference is between an LS1 and an LT1.

i'm looking to start a project with a second gen RX7 shell and would like to know what best to use(must be a chevy) just gatta have that v8!

 

most motors i've found at he wreckers are out of a 95camaro v8 and the same year firebird.

are these the same motors?

 

what is the power potential stock? as i'm on a budget

 

will is work with the fuel injection 'cos i'd like to keep it.

 

would any chevy shop be able to handle this project (cant do it myself)

 

pls again bear with me.

[ATTN SCOTT( ZR8ED) PLS READ]

Out of sheer coincidence i happened to come scotts essay on my situation with my mechanic who also happens to be his as well as his friend and needless to say i just couldn't walk away from that post without some sort of a response:

"A guy out on the web found me and my car. He came to several Z websites looking for info, and I directed him to my mechanic because he was a local as well. Nice guy mind you, I'm not bashing him.

 

But man is he niave. This guy bought a used l28 turbo engine/harness/ecu/afm etc.. fairly complete. except the oil feed line was disonected and the turbo was bad (broken shaft) it did have decent compression... prime candidate for a rebuild.. this guy wants to stuff it in as is... he also had a GNZ i/c that he wanted installed, and a SS muffler that had a big hole in it. (he wanted it patched up and installed) He also had a bad tranny and needed a new one. (72 240 with auto tranny)"

 

Chosing to call me names is ok but i need to clarify that i found that mechanic on my own,through my own research and not through any help of yours. again if you want that credit sure you can have it.

 

"He got a quote for 700.00 to install the engine and get it to fire. (no i/c) My mechanic is tooo nice, and now it starts

 

The guy comes back a week later expecting to have a running car! he didn't have a fuel pump or proper gas tank, the ign coil for the turbo, and he actually thought that 1 week was too long. even the turbo was broken and had to be replaced!

 

To make a huge dumb story short, its been almost 2 months (waiting for the guy to buy parts, bring money etc etc), the engine starts and runs has a new (used) turbo, a new (used tranny) a fuel pump, and my mechanic modified the fuel tank to work with FI (guy had no money for a new tank")

 

Did he (your friend/the mechanic) ever tell you that i paid him upfront for the complete job before he even picked up his tool 'cos he was getting married and "needed the extra cash" obviously after the wedding he was going away on his honeymoon as expected so i never showed up at his garage until after 2 weeks after he got back from his honeymoon which

was approximately 1 month and no scott i never expected the car to be done.however i did expect him to be working on it though and when i passed by his shop and saw my z outside being killed by the weather i was furious considering i had paid for the install upfront! (readers what would you do if it was you?) when i went into the shop thats when he told me that he wanted more money because certain things came up and yes i hit the roof,first of all nothing was done secondly you want more money(again guys weigh-in on this one)

again did your friend the mechanic ever tell you that he offered to sell me a tranny from his stock pile only when he found out that i was going to be buying one from our local z parts supplier in your neck of the woods? 'cos he need the money for his wedding turns out the tranny he sells me wont work with my driveline so we have to buy another shaft and have that modified to fit, again i'm paying for that too! and scott how did you know that i never had the money for a new gas tank? did "your friend" mention that to you or did you and i discuss my finances? ?

 

"His bill is at 700.00 and the guy is crying (literally once) that he's being ripped off. and thought that he was going to end up with a 300hp l28 turbo with intercooler, and detailed motor and engine bay like mine!!!!... LIKE MINE???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

This guy knows my car, and I told him long before he even found a turbo engine what a swap would cost..(2-3K to start if someone else installs it) even told him what MINE cost

 

Anyways.. he paid his bill minus some of the parts, and has refused to call the shop to inquire further even after repeated phone calls. He is going to get 1 months notice from this week (i/c install work is halted untill the bill is paid up to current status) after which it will be put into an impound yard and be billed what the yard is owed as well.

Still no word from the guy".

 

 

 

Crying scott!!! that was laughable to say the least,were you there to console me?

never once did i ever compare what i was getting to what you have/had and if you ask you "friend" he'll tell you that i was the one who kept telling him that you and i were not to be compared, ('cos he kept trying to) and that our situation both financially or otherwise was worlds apart afterall scott you do know that i unlike you dont have the luxury of being a grown-up living at home,having a good job ,no girlfriend basically no social life other that your car which affords you the oppurtunity to have an open checkbook policy when it comes to your z. as far as a discussion on what a swap would cost scott when did you have that talk with me? 'cos remember i'm so naive i probably forgot

 

again whomever told you that i refused to call the shop clearly forgot that not only did i call once a week but also stopped by from time to time,and one months notice scott ! who is your source? i wanted that car pulled out of there so many times "your friend" kept telling me it will soon be completed but as of today he is being kicked out of his unit due to some financial dispute with his landlord (again he never told me this) i found out myself while browsing for some other info on the web,we have since talked and i was by the shop today as all his parts and tools were being hauled out again he told me not to worry that he will get my car going by next week tops.(my z has been at this shop since the 1st or 2nd week of 2003 folks).

 

"What do you think? My mechanic feels terrible about the situation, but what do you do with a guy like this? We found out after from his many other connections with speed shops in the Toronto area that this guy has been kicked out of all of them for being so stupid. most said to get that piece of dodo out of there unless you got $5K up front to get started. (the rest of the car is in reasonable shape, but you all know, that highperformance motors require highperformance suspension/brakes, chassis, etc...)

 

Heck he even went to another Z speed shop and was told $10k min to do it right. (they do high end stuff ie twin supercharged viper, but the guy has a passion for modding Z's)

 

I'm not really looking for answers, i'm just ranting a bit. I just can't believe some people... and I sent him to my mechanic...

My mechanis is a stand up guy, honest, will go out of his way to help you. We are friends as well, but I can call him anytime, and he will try and fit me in when I really need something".

 

Of course your mechanic feels bad about the situation. my car has been sitting at his shop for just about 4 months and as far as the "other chatter" with rergards to the other shops and my history with them your mechanic is the only one i dealt with because I CHOOSE TO! NOT BECAUSE SOMESHOP SAID GET THAT PIECE OF DODO OUT OF THERE!

i basically felt like i can go there on my off days and sit with him while my car is being fixed. there are 3 main z tuners in town one of which you scott wont even visit 'cos him and "your friend" are rivals and according to "chatter" that i picked up when "your friend" bungled a fellow club members motor in the past this "other shop" apparently rectified that problem. the other shop is the one that apparently wanted your so called 10K to finish the job and i simply refuse to visit 'cos of the mans attitude and even YOU wont go there either,then there's "your friend" who apparently is the cheapest z tuner in town which is probably why the mans your friend anyways after all what other tie binds?(dont care to know if any!)

 

I think i have done my best to help clarify things to you and those who didn't get the other side of the story, now i have one question for you scott....WHAT IS THIS BAD BLOOD REALLY ABOUT? you call me a nice guy and state that you counselled me in the past but still couldn't call on me personally instead you felt the best thing to do is to ass me out on the forum!

I looked up to you as A MAN scott! not someone who would jump to conclusions without hearing from both sides, i stand corrected.

 

Finally scott before i rest my case i want YOU to remember that long before i came around in my z you guys had a bit of history/issues and all kinds of axe grinding going on in the club,plus those who have bad experiences/issues with "your friend" and when people decided to talk to me about them, they sought me out i never sought no one out to "RANT" to.