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yeah, i knew a guy that tried this swap. i asked him about it, and it costs a lot of money to do. he said 15k, but i dont know why the heck it would be that much. however, his car is badass 8) (i think he might have ordered all new parts for it) all i need is the NA motor and thats enough for me. im not into the whole drag racing scene hehe 8) but here are some quotes:

 

"The TT swap works great!!! It is expensive though...If I knew I was

going to spend so much money I probably wouldn't have done it."

 

"by the time all was said and done I probably have 15000.00 in the swap

doing all the work myself."

 

the guy si nice, here is his email : zwiz@flashcom.net

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why?

all i want to do is change the 2 engines and stuff to make them run. how do you get up to 15k for a swap? suspension, what else?

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Heh, you'd be surprised where the money goes!!

 

Just my engine alone... (and this has been a low budget job from the start)

 

Rings, bearings, gaskets - $400

Timing Chain Kit - $143

Junkyard Engine - $342

Headword - $463

Rebuild work - $300

SDS system - $1373

CFDF clutch, MSD 6A - $768

240mm FLywheel + surfacing - $120

240sx TB/TPS - $100

Izusu NPR Intercooler - $278

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I can't even guess how many $5-$20 bills that should be mixed in there as well. There is over $4K JUST on my engine. And remeber, I'm being CHHEEEEEEEEAAAP!!! (whenever its possible, or makes sense)

 

These are prices in Canadian $$$ btw. To convert to american $, divide by 10000. tongue.gif

 

 

 

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Richard Lewis - 1972 240z, Powered by a Nissan 2.8L Turbo Inline 6.

Drax240's Turbo Site

Beginners Turbo FAQ & Answers

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Ah but 15k would be sooooo easy!

 

Forged Pistons - $900

Spearco/cartech I/c - $800

Big Ball bearing turbo -$1200

External wastegate - $300

GreEdy BOV - $30,000,000. tongue.gif (ok, about $200)

Turbo Header - $1800

Turbo Timer - $200

550cc injectors - $350

SDS EM-6F instead of E - Extra $500

Scotties Downpipe - $150

 

Get the picture? smile.gif All these would be in addition to what I had in the other post... upgrades I will do eventually. (well, most of them)

 

I haven't even touched anything BUT the engine either. This engine in an early Z with no other upgrades would be downright SCARY!

 

 

 

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Richard Lewis - 1972 240z, Powered by a Nissan 2.8L Turbo Inline 6.

Drax240's Turbo Site

Beginners Turbo FAQ & Answers

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I found some guy selling the TT motor for 2000 and it had under 50K miles on it. The NA motor was 1500 and it also had under 50K miles on it. I'm basically down to a Chevy 350, Ford 5.0 (302 EFI), Ford 4.6L DOHC, or VG30DETT. They all can be very fast, very fun, and/ or very expensive. For the 4.6L or Z32 motor, it will have to come out of a wrecked car that I can get for cheap.

Thanks again guys,

moridin2004

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If you have fabrication skills, that swap will not cost you $15K. I spoke with one of the guys who did that swap (not Greg, I heard he is OK) and the guy was a pompous ass and basically gloated about the car and told me if I did not have a big wad of cash do not even speak to him about the swap. What he is not telling everyone is that includes EVERYTHING including body/paint.

 

Just because the engine is $2K, does not mean it will be cheap. I took a long hard look at this swap and decided it was too expensive and complex. The $2K, I assume includes a tranny/flywheel/clutch, if not factor that in. You also need to consider the following:

- fabbing the mounts

- custom driveshaft

- custom radiator and external oil cooler

- ECM/harness and wiring up that puppy

- I/C and plumbing!!! Remember TT means 2 and a plumbing nightmare. I was going to have Corky Bell make me an I/C for this with daul inlets and single outlet. With the mandrel plumbing and hoses, my estimate was $1100.

- 2 DPs and exhaust

- If you do not have fabrication/welding skills, then expect to pay someone a ton.

 

IMO, a built L28T can match a lightly tweaked TT in cost and performance, but if you have the $$$ to put into squeezing HP from the TT is is tops.

 

That is why I went with the GN.

 

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Scottie

71 240GN-Z

Scottie's GNZ

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I used to laugh at this, so called, rule of thumb. "Before you start the project figure the absolute most it should cost and double it". I'm now living it. This is why so many projects never get finished.

 

"Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Will he not first sit down and estimate the cost to see if he has enough money to complete it? For if he lays the foundation and is not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule him..." Luke 14:28&29

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Drax - for some of those parts you listed you can do VERY well buying used. The BOV for instance can be had pretty easily through the Supra, RX7, or maybe even the Mitsu forums. I've got a Greddy BOV on the RX7 and picked it up cheap by simply watching the RX7 forums for a deal. Same with the electronic boost controllers and all sorts fo toys. Lemme' know if you need URLs. E-Bay is also awesome but know what it's worth efore you consider bidding on anything. I've bought and sold maybe $6K worth of stuff this year and not been burned. (shrug)

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ok, so if i find a wrecked tt. (300zx, z32) why cant i just shove everythign in that into my car? can ti use same driveshaft and mounts and stuff? theres more room in the 240 engine bay then the 300zx i think. so i coudlnt use the stock IC then? all i want is a stock twinturbo engine in my 240, hehe. it will be fast enough. either that (if the tt is too much) or an NA engine. i mean 225 hp is still a lot (shut up v8'ers 8) ) in such a light car. right? and i can always upgrade that like pulleys, and whatnot.

well does that work then? just using every engine part in a 300zx and putting it all into my car...woudlnt there by no custom fabrications then?

 

thanks,

mike

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I HAVE DONE THE VG30T SWAP. IT IS WORTH IT IN BEING SMOOTH-FUEL MPG AVERAGE 24-RWHP 370-TORQUE 470 ON DYNO. IT IS A REAL SLEEPER. COST IS NOT CHEAP DEPENDING ON THE MODS YOU WANT TO DO TO THE ENG. HAVE RUN 12.2 AT 116 ON STREET TIRES. CAR IS SETUP FOR ROAD TRACKS. WILL BE AT STANFORD NISSAN IN PALO ALTO FOR CAR SHOW ON APRIL 8. I HAVE 40,000 MILES ON SWAP WITH NO PROBLEMS.

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